Common but tough spot: AK out of position

HEK · #1 06-25-2006, 11:47 PM

Villian is a solid TAG winning player in the 10/20 game. He's tighter than most tags though at 19/13. On the flop he very well could be raising a flush draw, set, air, AQ/AJ.

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BB ($3112)
Hero ($5334.70)
MP ($2430.45)
CO ($396)
Button ($1970)
SB ($2289)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
Hero raises to $72, MP calls $72, 4 folds.

Flop: ($174) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $141, MP raises to $407

What's the plan?

O_Witty · #2 06-25-2006, 11:55 PM

make it 1k

Gregg777 · #3 06-25-2006, 11:59 PM

Call, lead a blank turn.

O_Witty · #4 06-26-2006, 12:12 AM

what do u do if he raises you on the turn?

MDMA · #5 06-26-2006, 01:41 AM

Well obviously the decision is call or fold; raising here is not in any way good. It's all about his ranges/frequencies really; if he is, as you say, as loose in his raises that this will be air/spades/AQ/AJ enough, then just call and c/r ai on pretty much any non-spade turn (provided he's not so predictable/bad that he just checks behind turn a lot/gives up a lot of the time.). And well, you can fold against non-tricky players that will always cold call w/ AQ/AJ here as well as never/very rarely are raising w/ air. Versus most aggressive players I seldom fold here. As for the having the black ace, that does work against us a bit, since a lot of players will raise w/ AsXs here (and as such by us having the card it's one big group of holdings that we can eliminate from his raise-range), unless you are very aggressive/prone to bluff and will often fire a second bullet on the turn.

FWIW, I generally don't see many 19/13-players raise AQ/AJ (or air v often for that matter) in this spot, but this one could of course be an exception.

Against predictable/bad players generally not following through on turn when called on flop, I call a lot more liberally obv.

king_of_drafts · #6 06-26-2006, 01:53 AM

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make it 1k

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There is basically no reason to do this. If he has spades he calls. If he has AJ/AQ he usually folds. I like a call, c/r ai on nonspade turn. Spade on the turn is a toughie, I would prolly lead a spade.

HEK, your image is lag, right?

Deuce2High · #7 06-26-2006, 03:37 AM

I usually shove here.

Edit: Or make some sort of 3-bet.

psyduck · #8 06-26-2006, 04:34 AM

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I usually shove here.

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Why though, so he folds draws and AQ and calls with sets?

yellowsub · #9 06-26-2006, 05:42 AM

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I usually shove here.

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Why though, so he folds draws and AQ and calls with sets?

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lol yea, shove is miserable, the correct play is in mdma's post

Niwa · #10 06-26-2006, 09:27 AM

MDMA, good post.