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Old 06-25-2006, 05:01 PM
samsonh samsonh is offline
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Default Stars $1050 KK first level

Villain is Staminga who I have played 400 or so hands with in 114s. He has shown me nothing spectacular in those SNGs but has a terrific record in MTTs. My gut is screaming AA. Am I stupid for pushing here? I could fold and still have plenty of chips. Does anyone fold here? This isn't meant to be a bad beat post, sorry if it comes off as one.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2760)
UTG+1 (t2670)
MP1 (t2940)
MP2 (t3000)
MP3 (t2910)
CO (t3680)
Hero (t2790)
SB (t2900)
BB (t3320)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="red">Hero raises to t240</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to t660</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Hero calls t420

Flop: (t1470) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets t900</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>
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Old 06-25-2006, 05:05 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

I fold this without too much thought.
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Old 06-25-2006, 05:48 PM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

Against an unknown I'd push, but if you read the guy as a solid regular a fold looks good.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:25 PM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

Does everyone else here just call the 240 reraise if we're Villain? That 660 reraise sucks balls.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

I'm pretty surprised by the responses. Why even throw in the 420 pf if you fold that flop? I would need a read of 'uber tight' for me to not get in all of my chips.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:53 PM
wpr101 wpr101 is offline
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

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I fold this without too much thought.

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Really? I push on his flop raise.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

Yes, if we're folding to a flop c-bet I think we need to fold preflop as we're not getting correct odds to look for our set here.

But folding KK here preflop just... gah.
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:20 PM
Chrisman886 Chrisman886 is offline
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

I think folding this on this ragged flop is no different than folding preflop. We're pretty sure he has an overpair, but which one? I call.
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

To be honest I would actually consider folding preflop against a solid player, but if i decide to call, there is little that is going to make me fold the flop, other than a QJx/ Qxx/ Axx flop.
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Old 06-25-2006, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Stars $1050 KK first level

I was pretty surprised at all the people saying fold. But I guess the more I think about it, against a solid non-tricky opponent, a fold makes sense here. But the time to do it is preflop. Once you call that raise you're committed to a safe flop.

And I sure wouldn't let ANYONE know I'm capable of folding KK preflop. That could be exploitable.
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