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Old 06-25-2006, 01:41 PM
QandA201 QandA201 is offline
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Default 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t6600)
BB (t1115)
UTG (t9955)
UTG+1 (t8610)
Hero (t3935)
MP2 (t3335)
CO (t4345)
Button (t2390)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t400, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1100) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t1200</font>


To me, his bet looks like he is afraid of action, in other words, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have the queen. And I sincerely doubt he's doing any second level thinking on this one and "making it look like he doesn't have a queen when he really does," mainly cause this is a 4/180 and no one in these does any second level thinking, ever.

So how do I play it? fold anyway because of awkward stack sizes? call and reasses? push? Do I need/have fold equity if I do push? Or am I ahead of his range enough that if he calls 100% of the time that's ok too.
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Old 06-25-2006, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

If you think he has 88-JJ/KK/AA more often than AK/AT/AJ/22-66/random then shove. If not, fold.
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

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If you think he has 88-JJ/KK/AA more often than AK/AT/AJ/22-66/random then shove. If not, fold

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Huh?
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

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If you think he has 88-JJ/KK/AA more often than AK/AT/AJ/22-66/random then shove. If not, fold

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Huh?

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Huh?

It's a $4 and Villain min-raised UTG and overbet the big, bad scary flop. This is TT+ seriously like 75% of the time. If he reads him as that kind of donk, fold. If he reads him as some other type of donk, call. Not sure where the confusion is.
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

I am actually confused too, I maybe reading your post wrong, but it reads like you are giving advice to push when hero is dominated (read backwards and it looks like you are saying fold if he believed villain has AK/AT/AJ/22-66 and to push if villain has overpair)? Am I just misreading?
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

HAHA

oh.

yeah.

the other way around.
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:35 PM
mikehildebrand mikehildebrand is offline
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Default Re: 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

Phew, I have been away for some time and was thinking, YIKES! No wonder I am on a tourney slump, I have been playing backwards!! : )
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: 77 on QQ3 flop, how to play?

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And I sincerely doubt he's doing any second level thinking on this one and "making it look like he doesn't have a queen when he really does," mainly cause this is a 4/180 and no one in these does any second level thinking, ever.

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Does that include you?
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