Turn & River scare cards

KAknight · #1 06-25-2006, 05:12 AM

What should I have done here?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Button folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Leobzook · #2 06-25-2006, 05:14 AM

I think its fine.

Fantam · #3 06-25-2006, 10:16 AM

Your opponent might have made the flush, but he also might have something like a weaker Ace and decided to bluff when the 3rd flush card fell.

He could even have a hand like K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x and decided to bet with the nut flush draw.

So, I would also have called down after BB donked the turn, and hoped for the best.

threads13 · #4 06-25-2006, 12:12 PM

grunch
I would raise the turn but fold to a 3-bet. I'd also probably value bet the river but that is a bit more read dependent.

Jaran · #5 06-25-2006, 12:48 PM

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I would raise the turn but fold to a 3-bet. I'd also probably value bet the river but that is a bit more read dependent.

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Why would you take this line?

-Jaran

threads13 · #6 06-25-2006, 12:58 PM

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grunch
I would raise the turn but fold to a 3-bet. I'd also probably value bet the river but that is a bit more read dependent.

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Why would you take this line?

-Jaran

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Well I admit I have been overusing it a bit but the idea is that he will 3-bet me if he has me beat and I can release. If he doesn't 3 bet me I am most likely still ahead and getting value for my hand.

Jaran · #7 06-25-2006, 01:10 PM

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grunch
I would raise the turn but fold to a 3-bet. I'd also probably value bet the river but that is a bit more read dependent.

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Why would you take this line?

-Jaran

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Well I admit I have been overusing it a bit but the idea is that he will 3-bet me if he has me beat and I can release. If he doesn't 3 bet me I am most likely still ahead and getting value for my hand.

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Personnally, I would rather have him bluff off his chips, unless I have a read that he will call down after being played back on when he bluffs at a scare card. Also, I want to see a sd here, and your line could have me folding against something like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

-Jaran

-Jaran

threads13 · #8 06-25-2006, 01:16 PM

Good point. Perhaps this play is suited more for a straightforward player who will only 3-bet with the nuts.