Clonie Gowen owns Mike Matusow

[private joker]

I didn't want this hand to get lost in the thread on this particular show, but in the FullTilt live special, Clonie just made an expert multi-street bluff against John Juanda and Mike Matusow, outplaying Matusow especially.

The other thread is whining about Gowan not belonging at the table, but she's clearly a better player than Matusow and she proves it in the following hand:

Blinds are 4k/8k. Folded to Matusow on the button, who open-limps with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Gowan calls in the SB with J8o. Juanda checks his BB option with 62o.

Flop comes TT7r. Clonie checks, Juanda bets the minimum 8k, taking a stab with his junk hand. Matusow calls, and Clonie calls (getting 5:1) either with the gutshot and overcard or with the intention of stealing the pot later on.

Turn brings a 3. Clonie checks, John checks, and now Matusow fires out a quick value bet. He's pretty sure he has the best hand, and he does. But Clonie decides to represent a slowplayed T by "trying to trap Juanda" with a mere turn call. By check-raising the turn, she'd "announce" her monster and blow Mike out of the pot.

River brings a Q. Clonie wastes very little time betting 60k, and Matusow wastes even less time folding the best hand, knowing it's impossible to call with A-high after the presumably tight Gowan just made two frightening calls and a strong river lead.

Expert play, expert hand, the most impressive thing I've seen on TV in a while -- though that's not saying much given the low standards set by the WPT and Poker Superstars Invitational.

Also, it should be noted Chris Ferguson has made some terrific reads, as has Eric Lindgren.



Dynasty: only edited spelling in title

[UATrewqaz]

What sort of odds would you lay that this is exactly her thought process on the hand in question?

[Runner Runner]

I will lay 6-1 that the following is her EXACT thought process:

PF: It's cheap, I'll call.
Flop: It's cheap, I'll call.
Turn: Still pretty cheap, and I'm cheap, I'll call.
River: Well I missed, but maybe he doesn't have much so I can win with a strange bluff.

[DoubleTwentyOne]

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I will lay 6-1 that the following is her EXACT thought process:

PF: It's cheap, I'll call.
Flop: It's cheap, I'll call.
Turn: Still pretty cheap, and I'm cheap, I'll call.
River: Well I missed, but maybe he doesn't have much so I can win with a strange bluff.

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Yeah, because we all know on a board of TT7, whenever someone bets, they MUST HAVE AT or better.

[dlk9s]

My guess is that she decided to call the flop bet because it was cheap to see if she could catch her straight, but when she missed on the turn, she decided to setup the bluff.

She also may have had it planned on the flop, but also with the hope of catching the straight.

Just a guess from a guy who plays $5 S&G's.

[private joker]

I also apologize for my idiotic misspelling of Gowen's last name in this thread.

[TomHimself]

i only watched a little but whats up with people open limping the button? i know in nl cash thats pretty bad but is there any advantages to doing it in a tourney?

[Snarf]

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i only watched a little but whats up with people open limping the button? i know in nl cash thats pretty bad but is there any advantages to doing it in a tourney?

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its a pretty meh thing

in short, yeah a little advantage sometimes for some reasons.

generally its agreed that

raising >>> calling >>> folding in that spot

but that calling isn't horrible and does have its spots/reasons

[FieryJustice]

Of all the people in this event, clonie played the worst by far. She bluffed in horrible spots, walked eric every time and basically did everything in her power to try to lose. I was also very suprised at how result oriented the anouncers were.

[ChipLeader7]

Tourny>>>Cash game
Raising on the button