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Old 06-19-2006, 06:18 PM
jdefoe jdefoe is offline
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Default 50NL, QQ vs maniac facing turn minraise

I lost a big hand prior to this and I forgot to reload, but villan plays many hands and has played maniac-like. This is the first hand i've played against him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($50.80)
MP ($0)
CO ($76.35)
Button ($48.78)
SB ($81.12)
Hero ($30.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, CO calls $2.50, SB folds.

Flop: ($6.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, CO calls $6.

Turn: ($18.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6.

I know I should have bet 2/3 here. That turn bet was atrocious. I don't know why I even did it?

River: ($42.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, QQ vs maniac facing turn minraise

I don't like the turn call and the river call even though he is a maniac.

IMO you are beat
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:38 PM
jdefoe jdefoe is offline
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Default Re: 50NL, QQ vs maniac facing turn minraise

I called, and he showed 44. The fact that he was playing widly led me to believe I had him. I still think it was a bad call though
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, QQ vs maniac facing turn minraise

He read your bet as weakness, but why did he raise so little??

You both misplayed the turn anyway.
5$ on the river is a strange bet - again, doesn't look like value bet, looks like he wants a cheap showdown, but if he has 44 - WTF??
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:57 PM
falcone falcone falcone falcone is offline
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Default Re: 50NL, QQ vs maniac facing turn minraise

Your preflop and flop bets are good. I don't like your $6 bet into an $18 pot on the turn. It looks too weak and he could easily reraise you all in here, which you couldn't call. My intuition of his cold call on the flop would believe that he's drawing to a flush, probably with the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], but maybe with the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. His min raise on the turn is very suspicious, 9 times out of 10 I throw those queens away immediately in this spot. His play seems a lot like he's holding A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

It seems to me like you either needed to put in at at least 2/3 pot sized bet and then fold to a raise, or, (knowing that he was a maniac) check call the turn and the river unless a spade hits.
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, QQ vs maniac facing turn minraise

Repeating bet sizes scream fear.
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