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Old 06-19-2006, 05:15 PM
Pyro12345 Pyro12345 is offline
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Default How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

I didn't really know what to do here. Villain is a TAG over a decent sample.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">8 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

If you're serious about contiuing with the hand after you flop middle pair, I'd raise the flop. You have position and you get a free card from the play almost often. If you get reraised then you can drop it.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

Yea, raise the flop and see how SB reacts against a potential ace.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

Unless you've tangled with villain before in stealing the blinds I would be inclined to give him credit for at least an A preflop, if not a PP bigger than a J due to the cap. Again, if you have a read that he is over aggro on steals then the hand plays differently and I'd raise the flop and see if he leads the turn. Other wise I think you can let go of this on the flop.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

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Villain is a TAG over a decent sample.

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You realize that this doesn't really tell us anything at all, right?

In point of fact, I don't really think a read on Villan (aside from "cold-blooded maniac") is going to change how you play this hand. This is as straightforward as it gets. You can either just fold the flop outright, or raise the flop and fold to a 3-bet. If he smooth-calls your flop raise, check behind on the turn and call one on the river.
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

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or raise the flop and fold to a 3-bet.

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Hero is getting 13-to-1 on a peel if he does this.
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:35 PM
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or raise the flop and fold to a 3-bet.

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Hero is getting 13-to-1 on a peel if he does this.

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yes, but i think after that you are not profitable less than 1 out of 13 times here...
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

*grunch*

Raise flop and call a 3 bet. Fold turn u/i.

jessie
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

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or raise the flop and fold to a 3-bet.

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Hero is getting 13-to-1 on a peel if he does this.

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yes, but i think after that you are not profitable less than 1 out of 13 times here...

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The only hands we don't have odds to call against are AA and JJ. Folding MP + the nut bdfd getting 13:1 is not an option.
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Old 06-19-2006, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: How do you feel about this calldown... blind defense

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or raise the flop and fold to a 3-bet.

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Hero is getting 13-to-1 on a peel if he does this.

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yes, but i think after that you are not profitable less than 1 out of 13 times here...

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Normally I would raise flop and fold to 3 bet, but this is a case where I would call three and fold turn u/i - not just because of the odds, but because there are an awful lot of cards that would improve our hand. With second pair good kicker, BDFD &amp; BDSD I think it's worth seeing the turn.

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