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Old 06-18-2006, 10:26 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

PartyPoker $215 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2201)
Button (t7998)
Hero (t3170)
BB (t6631)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with XX
<font color="red">CO allin 2201</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t1901, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Hero holds one of three hands:
22
A4s
QJs

Do you call with any, some, or all of these hands here?

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Old 06-18-2006, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

who's the villain? Different players will have very different ranges here.
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Old 06-18-2006, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

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who's the villain? Different players will have very different ranges here.

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Old 06-18-2006, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

22, A4s, QJs

no idea who the villian is. w/o a read, i'm thinking he's pushing a wide range of hands, possible top67% (any pair, any ace, any single face card, any suited 2 offs, any unsuited connectors).

22- I'm short on chips. calling is a coin flip at best, but i'm on the good side of the flip. probably will call.

A4s- I'm more likely to call with this than 22.

QJs- i havent done sngPT, but it looks like this is probably a call if i put him on top67%. but i probably wouldnt call and pray bigstack has a hand.
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Old 06-19-2006, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

I hate calling with 22, but all 3 are calls.

QJs might be questionable - depends on how big a range he has.

Interesting hand - if you fold (and bb folds) - you are then the short stack.
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Old 06-19-2006, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

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possible top67%

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That would be v loose IMO. However, this situation probably needs to involve some blind discounting or something to properly assess the pusher's optimal range and options.

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Old 06-19-2006, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

Top 67% really? Well in that case it is a no brainer.

SNGPT will tell you to push maybe 30% tops. The best players will push much less then that. We are getting 31:19 so we probably need to win 44% of the time to breakeven (dunno sans sngpt). The 22 seems close but probably correct and the A4s probably slightly wrong. I can't see calling with QJs though and I would probably just muck them all.
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Old 06-19-2006, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

ooo....

Shillx,
I was hoping you'd respond to this thread!!

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Old 06-19-2006, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)

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possible top67%

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That would be v loose IMO. However, this situation probably needs to involve some blind discounting or something to properly assess the pusher's optimal range and options.

Yugoslav

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I was thinking 30%-40% ... 40% QJ is a call.

Surely 30% isn't too loose?
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Old 06-19-2006, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: curtains\' hand #13 (bubble)


While playing this hand I remember thinking it was a pretty close decision. I thought it was more likely he would be looser than normal than tighter than normal, especially as small stack with just over 3x the BB and facing the BB next hand.
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