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Old 06-18-2006, 10:57 AM
Gazzbut Gazzbut is offline
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Default 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

villian is 26/12/1.93 over 90 hands.

The river is the street im most interested here. Not sure whether or not im justified calling here. I know the pot is big but taking into account the board and the action is it still a call?

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB.
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

Call, he might have played KQ/AQ like this. Or KTs.

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Old 06-18-2006, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

You have to call the river. If you lose/get sucked out on, so be it. The pot is big, and you may have counterfitted two pair on the river (although it's unlikely, given his range.)
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

Call, expecting to see AQ/KQ a ton of the time. There are relatively few hands he could have that hold a J and QQ is unlikely given his cold-call...
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

Yeah I suppose it is an obvious call but the river has been doing my head in lately!
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

Would u call here?

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB.
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

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Would u call here?

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No reads?

I would have 3bet the flop. Given the way you played it, you can fold the river since UTG just woke up when the flush/QT for the straight hit and the pot is protected by MP1 calling.

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Old 06-18-2006, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

I'm with Haupt on 3-tickling the flop.

The river overcall is no guut.
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Old 06-19-2006, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK faces turn raise.

I vote for a raise/fold turn. The flop 3 bet is not going to get UTG to fold. You also have the benefit of being in position wrt to c/r'er. I think a turn raise represents your hand well, and makes a 3 bet very easy to lay down.
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