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Are hands like this leaks in my game?
I'm trying to figure out leaks in my game. I played about 100 hands tonight and these 2 stood out as maybe being fishy on my part. Any help welcome.
Paradise Poker 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls. Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Turn: (5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 8 BB The river raise here screamed 2 pair at me. Should I be calling here? Paradise Poker 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls. River: (10 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls. Final Pot: 16 BB |
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
first hand is well played. turn might seem close to some people but you usually have 10 outs.
the second hand is very poorly played. fold preflop. fold the river. |
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
I figured that on the second hand. I just see that ace and my finger starts clickin'
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
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I figured that on the second hand. I just see that ace and my finger starts clickin' [/ QUOTE ] You might want to cut that finger off. |
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
hand 2 preflop:
fold>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> raise>call |
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
i would probably fold the first one on the turn. where do you find 10 outs miles? the only cards that will imporve your hand are aces, queens and tens. so that is 3 + 3 + 4 = 10. but i really dont think you can count your outs as even close to that. your queens are seriously discounted. i would hardly even count them as 1. i would probably count 2 of your three aces as ok. and i guess all tens minus the T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] are good. so i spose that is three more.
im finding it hard to get more than 5 outs. so i fold. |
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
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i would probably fold the first one on the turn. where do you find 10 outs miles? the only cards that will imporve your hand are aces, queens and tens. so that is 3 + 3 + 4 = 10. but i really dont think you can count your outs as even close to that. your queens are seriously discounted. i would hardly even count them as 1. i would probably count 2 of your three aces as ok. and i guess all tens minus the T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] are good. so i spose that is three more. im finding it hard to get more than 5 outs. so i fold. [/ QUOTE ] We're getting 6 to 1 plus implied, so we probably don't need more than 6 outs to call. Your gutshot is worth almost 4, and I think overcards should be at least 2, therefore call. |
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
Not really a fan of the flop raise in hand 2, and as others have said, fold PF and the river.
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
h1: fine
h2: fold PF/riv, call flop |
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Re: Are hands like this leaks in my game?
Hand #1: Fine. Turn call is close to me, because the player is an unknown, and I've seen my fair share of stupid slowplays, but seems standard.
Hand #2: Meh, fold pre-flop and save yourself the pain. As played, your flop raise did nothing to help you. I would have probably waited until the turn to pop a bet or raise, assuming the card didn't contribute to the straight draw on the board (flush draw being completed at least gives us a redraw). Finally, fold that river. Now you know you're behind. |
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