best way to satelite into the wsop?

[PhiGamTN]

whats the best way to satelite into the wsop?

[La Brujita]

my gut feeling is the party 215s every night at 9:03 are the best way.

recently they've been guaranteeing 8 seats and you can satellite into them.

there very well may be other better ways at smaller sites with overlays, but between party and stars i prefer either the 215 or the double shootouts at stars.

[locutus2002]

I've bubbled all of them.

I think the best way is Satellite to Satellite to WSOP.
The first Sat to Sat are much softer than the Satellites to the WSOP.

The party 215, FT 1050, and stars 650 are all very equally tough.

Personally, I favor the $69 SAT to SAT on FT; then the $80 SAT to SAT on Stars. The 11r on party is also soft, but takes along time to win $215.

Doubleshootouts are not for lags because it does not require chip accumulation like a normal tourney. I still don't understand how MLG wins these all the time.


GL.

[La Brujita]

I was going to say, and you said it that double shootouts might be better for solid players rather than maniacs but you need to be a good shorthanded player.

I think people don't think enough about their strengths when deciding what kind of satellite to play.

For example the 8 seater at party will be much less shorthanded focused.

[locutus2002]

My strengths are bubbling.

[NHFunkii]

[ QUOTE ]
I've bubbled all of them.

I think the best way is Satellite to Satellite to WSOP.
The first Sat to Sat are much softer than the Satellites to the WSOP.

The party 215, FT 1050, and stars 650 are all very equally tough.

Personally, I favor the $69 SAT to SAT on FT; then the $80 SAT to SAT on Stars. The 11r on party is also soft, but takes along time to win $215.

Doubleshootouts are not for lags because it does not require chip accumulation like a normal tourney. I still don't understand how MLG wins these all the time.


GL.

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huh? double shootouts are ALL about chip accumulation. In satellites that give out more than one seat you can't always take every +cEV edge that comes to you, but double shootouts are the opposite, and that is what makes the lag style so good.

[Nez477]

[ QUOTE ]
I've bubbled all of them.

I think the best way is Satellite to Satellite to WSOP.
The first Sat to Sat are much softer than the Satellites to the WSOP.

The party 215, FT 1050, and stars 650 are all very equally tough.

Personally, I favor the $69 SAT to SAT on FT; then the $80 SAT to SAT on Stars. The 11r on party is also soft, but takes along time to win $215.

Doubleshootouts are not for lags because it does not require chip accumulation like a normal tourney. I still don't understand how MLG wins these all the time.


GL.

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Huh?

Last time I checked you needed to accumulate ALL the chips at your table in a DSO.

And start raising with KK UTG in level 1. It'll help.

Brad

[La Brujita]

his statement made perfect sense to me.

it depends what you understand accumulation to mean. of course you need to get all the chips but by the time you get heads up you've only quadrupled. you have to "accumulate" a larger multiple than that in a regular sat.

Maybe I'm not saying it well, what I'm trying to get at is the different strategies required to get chips in a multi and a sit and go.

As an example, in a tight satellite is a decent period of time you need to get chips by stealing blinds and restealing when the ms are relatively large.

this is not true in a double shootout, when you are stealing in a sit and go more often the ms are lower.

[locutus2002]

The need to accumulate chips is primarily due to avg stack increasing in the tournament. The avg stack at your table does not change unless players enter/exit. The average stack increases as a result of players busting out, the avg stack in BB decreases as a result of the blinds going up. These two aspects of the structure of the tournament largely affect your "need to accumulate chips". Only the later aspect is present in a DS, lowering the need relative to a normal freezeout.

KK is likely to win a big pot if it makes top set.
KK is likely to win a small pot unimproved.
KK is less likely to lose a big pot in level 1.

[locutus2002]

Plenty of freezouts pay ~1 spot. The payout structure is exogenous.