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Old 06-16-2006, 12:25 AM
27offsooot 27offsooot is offline
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Default 66 hand

SB is TAG (something like 26/23 over a small sample). UTG is loose (60 VPIP) and at the time his PFR read 15, don't remember specific reads and PF is close, so is the rest I think.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB
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Old 06-16-2006, 12:31 AM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: 66 hand

how alive do you figure your flush outs to be on the turn? That seems to be the closest street to me.

your straight is totally hidden though, and I think sb could be going nuts with a set or AA.
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Old 06-16-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: 66 hand

I think you put in one too many bets on the river. Do you really think he is 3-betting set queens here?
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Old 06-16-2006, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 66 hand

Well the way it played out it's hard for him to give hero credit for something that beats top set. I don't think I'd 4bet if there was a 5bet cap, but I'd play this the same.
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Old 06-16-2006, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 66 hand

I think I call pf instead of 3 betting. I think I want callers behind me to play this for set value. Even tho villian is 60/15, 66 is kinda weak and I think we're probably getting a coinflip most of the time here against ovarcards or so.

I think I raise 88/A9s and better.

Easy call after the cap PF. At the worst, you know villians like their hands and you're gonna get action if you spike a set.

I think flop is pretty standard too, getting 15:1 on the gutshot.

I think the turn call is kinda thin isn't it? We're still drawing for a gutshot when there's a flush out there. Even if the flush wasn't there we're still barely neutral EV pot odds. Also probably not much implied odds given that SB is a TAG and will probably slow down if we show aggression.

I think I just call SB's 3 bet. We don't really have the nuts here and we're probably still behind. SB is also a TAG, probably not doing this w/ something we beat.
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: 66 hand

i really dislike the river cap. his 3bet is saying i can bet whatever you are representing. If he has QQ, I don't think he's 3betting.
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:05 AM
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he has A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here 100% of the time. Call me nuts to say that folding to the 3bet might be correct (not with a small sample though, and I'd do it never). He sees the straight, he sees the flush, who 3-bets with QQ here?
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: 66 hand

Turn: It probably depends on how I'm feeling that day if I'm calling the turn. I'm not even terribly thrilled if a 6 or 5 hits the river. So many cards have us trapped to call a river bet.

River: Just call the 3bet. I don't think he's 3betting QQ here.
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:12 AM
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he has A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here 100% of the time. Call me nuts to say that folding to the 3bet might be correct (not with a small sample though, and I'd do it never). He sees the straight, he sees the flush, who 3-bets with QQ here?

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well, i'm not saying fold here. but I'm certainly saying please dont cap here. This is a raise call for sure. There is really on ly 2 combos of flushes that have you here. Granted he might not 3bet a set here, I've seen ppl on party do worse. But please, don't cap.

On a side note, if I 4 bet this live, and got 5 bet, then i'd fold.
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Old 06-16-2006, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: 66 hand

are you regularly 3 betting a 15PFR with 66?

flop peel is fine.
i fold the turn.
river cap is not good at all.
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