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Old 06-15-2006, 07:33 PM
HEnewbie HEnewbie is offline
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Default Error on page 47 of NLHE T&P?

The second paragraph on page 47 lists the opponent's possible draws with a board of Jd Td 6c 9c as:
- diamond draw
- straight draw
- backdoor club draw

Isn't the club draw just a plain old 9 out draw? How can there be a backdoor draw on the turn?

Should the discussion also consider the possibility of a made straight?

Steve
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Old 06-15-2006, 07:45 PM
Leavenfish Leavenfish is offline
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Default Re: Error on page 47 of NLHE T&P?

Yes, the club draw is a 9 out draw...a backdoor draw is what is refered to when you get your draw on the end when you were not even trying for it at first.

I agree with the straight comment.

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Old 06-15-2006, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: Error on page 47 of NLHE T&P?

The context of the whole scenario is that you are quite sure that you have the best hand and your opponent, having checked to you on the turn, is drawing.

The example is given to show various possible draws, and how you should size a bet against a drawing hand so that your opponent is LIKELY to be calling unprofitably.

Later, on page 55, the author mentions the consideration that you might not have the best hand, and how that would affect your betting.

The backdoor club draw is mentioned because the second club did not hit the board until the turn, so all your opponent had on the FLOP was a backdoor draw. Hence if the clubs are outs for your opponent, he likely had some other reason to stay in the hand on the flop.
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