100NL KK

subzero · #1 06-14-2006, 08:13 AM

Villain hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. My image is tight. I hate the way I played this.

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saw flop|saw showdown

MP3 ($11.05)
CO ($147.50)
Button ($78.40)
SB ($103.30)
BB ($45.10)
UTG ($36.95)
UTG+1 ($31.50)
MP1 ($115.50)
Hero ($107.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 5 folds, MP1 raises to $27, Hero calls $18.

Flop: ($55.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $25, Hero?

xwillience · #2 06-14-2006, 08:22 AM

umm. hero folds. I would have pushed preflop though.

subzero · #3 06-14-2006, 08:42 AM

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umm. hero folds. I would have pushed preflop though.

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What range do you put villain on? I figured he must have aces, but I wasn't folding preflop.

xwillience · #4 06-14-2006, 08:44 AM

he has AA or KK. I was thinking AA wouldnt bet out but would QQ or KK? i just think you have to muck it.

ama0330 · #5 06-14-2006, 08:55 AM

This is just dirty, but I feel the ace here. QQ or even JJ is possible here but that bet is just too small and it feels like AA/AK/AQ. I fold this, then run into the stands and tell my wife how its only the second time I've ever folded KK, and make her tell me how good a player I am.

xwillience · #6 06-14-2006, 08:58 AM

heres what im thinking. u can call and fold to a bet on the turneith 100% certainty. I was thinkinga raise but only AA calls u.

unfortunately this maybe one of the times you have to fold the best hand. your read on villian is that hes not a big bluffer. so hes got SOMETHING here. you may be able to use this and stack him later on.

4_2_it · #7 06-14-2006, 09:11 AM

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unfortunately this maybe one of the times you have to fold the best hand.

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You really have to decide what hands villain with re-raise with pre-flop. If it's only AA-QQ and maybe AK then flop is an easy fold. If his range is a lot wider, then you can consider calling this down. I hate these spots and usually fold like a scared little girl without a read.

subzero · #8 06-14-2006, 09:16 AM

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You really have to decide what hands villain with re-raise with pre-flop. If it's only AA-QQ and maybe AK then flop is an easy fold. If his range is a lot wider, then you can consider calling this down. I hate these spots and usually fold like a scared little girl without a read.

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When villain 3-bet me preflop OOP, I felt that he had it (which is why I didn't like pushing preflop). But folding preflop seemed too weak. I ended up folding on the flop.

xwillience · #9 06-14-2006, 09:38 AM

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You really have to decide what hands villain with re-raise with pre-flop. If it's only AA-QQ and maybe AK then flop is an easy fold. If his range is a lot wider, then you can consider calling this down. I hate these spots and usually fold like a scared little girl without a read.

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i thought really hard about AK. because IMO AK would lead here where AA wouldnt. it actually very irrelevant but would AK 4bet preflop? but i cant think of what leads that. I think KK might and fold to a raise so I kind of wanted to push this flop. but....?

4_2_it · #10 06-14-2006, 09:41 AM

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You really have to decide what hands villain with re-raise with pre-flop. If it's only AA-QQ and maybe AK then flop is an easy fold. If his range is a lot wider, then you can consider calling this down. I hate these spots and usually fold like a scared little girl without a read.

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When villain 3-bet me preflop OOP, I felt that he had it (which is why I didn't like pushing preflop). But folding preflop seemed too weak. I ended up folding on the flop.

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The pre-flop call is fine becuase only AA calls your push. If the flop was all unders, would you push?