Take it down now?

SomethingClever · #1 06-09-2006, 02:39 PM

Here's something I need to work on in NL. Options:

1 - Donk the flop

2 - Check/call flop, checkraise turn

3 - check/call flop, donk turn

4 - check/raise flop.

I was leaning toward just calling the flop and spraying chips into the pot on the turn, but once they both called the pot got so big that I thought it was worth trying to take down right there. Yeah or no?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($46.83)
Hero ($24.45)
MP ($26.95)
CO ($104.95)
Button ($33)
SB ($27.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.1, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85.

Flop: ($3.55) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $3, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $10....

ZingyDNA · #2 06-09-2006, 02:43 PM

b/3b ai. Push turn if they dont raise you on flop.

Tilt · #3 06-09-2006, 02:45 PM

Definite raise.

derosnec · #4 06-09-2006, 02:45 PM

why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly

SomethingClever · #5 06-09-2006, 02:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]
why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I'm trying to forget the Ed Miller limit mantra of "if the pot is big, win it now."

That $9 was just too tempting...

Dan Bitel · #6 06-09-2006, 02:52 PM

you want money hree, not to "take it down".

Given reletive position, I like the C/R here

djoyce003 · #7 06-09-2006, 02:55 PM

lead this flop and hope you get raised.

MrWookie · #8 06-09-2006, 02:59 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I'm trying to forget the Ed Miller limit mantra of "if the pot is big, win it now."

That $9 was just too tempting...

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, that's an important one to forget. In limit, the pots don't get much bigger, but in NL, they explode. The first thing you should be thinking when you hit a set is, "OK, how can I get his stack?" Adjust from there if the board is really scary.

SomethingClever · #9 06-09-2006, 03:04 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
why would you want to take down the pot on the flop? induce big mistakes, rather than helping your opponents play correctly

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I'm trying to forget the Ed Miller limit mantra of "if the pot is big, win it now."

That $9 was just too tempting...

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, that's an important one to forget. In limit, the pots don't get much bigger, but in NL, they explode. The first thing you should be thinking when you hit a set is, "OK, how can I get his stack?" Adjust from there if the board is really scary.

[/ QUOTE ]

So I need to give myself permission to slowplay sometimes, right?

aces_dad · #10 06-09-2006, 03:04 PM

This board misses most of MP's range so I'm not concerned about him being on a str8 draw, more likely SB has some piece of it.

I'd lead flop, if MP raises and SB sticks around 3bet, if MP raises SB folds smooth call and c/r turn.