JTs flopped flush draw vs lead (PS 180 4.40)

r987r · #1 06-08-2006, 07:13 AM

no reads, just moved to this table like five hands ago. First hand I played, if this person even noticed. After I raised, it took him a while to call... so i didnt think he was very strong.

do you call here or raise all in for some FE?

~35 people left I think.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t9950)
SB (t3645)
BB (t4430)
UTG (t6410)
UTG+1 (t630)
MP1 (t17480)
MP2 (t9459)
Hero (t9375)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls t400, Hero raises to t1600, 3 folds, MP2 calls t1200.

Flop: (t3375) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets t1600, Hero ?

NoahSD · #2 06-08-2006, 07:42 AM

I push this. This type of bet is usually indicative of weakness, since strong hands would probably go for the c/r.

A_Junglen · #3 06-08-2006, 07:56 AM

Yea, fairly standard shove.

johnnyblaze · #4 06-08-2006, 08:33 AM

what are your reads on mp2? what kind of hands has he been limping in with? He could be limping in with a pocket pair or a hand like yours? If im gonna raise it up preflop with a hand like j10 suited i like to be the first one in, i think your stack is large enough in relation to the blinds that you can either limp in behind if you really wanna see a flop or find a better spot. Hands like jack10 can be hard to play after the flop. What if villain has A5 spades, i would much rather push a flop with the nut flush draw

rppkoz · #5 06-08-2006, 10:58 AM

Push.

AceLuby · #6 06-08-2006, 11:06 AM

I don't think this is a move of weakness (at least in my experience). If someone raises me in position and I have a marginal hand (say 66) that I'm playing for a good flop, and I hit the flop I'm going to lead in the pot instead of c/r hoping for a raise (especially to a known aggressive player, which most 2+2ers are). If they fold, well so be it, but if I check and they check behind I feel ultra stupid. I think I make more money w/ this move w/ my made hands as well because to keep playing they at least have to put what I put in and 50% of the time I am raised where I can push OTT, or call their AI. Just an insight.