JESUS

[EmpireMaker2]

ME and this guy battle every night, we are prob the 2 best players at 5-10, and we constantly make moves on each other. I would describe him as a lag 8 tabler, who's not afraid to pull a big bluff.


***** Hand History for Game 4466863559 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Thu Jun 08 02:04:13 EDT 2006
Table Table 100094 (No DP) (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: nysizzle ( $844.25)
Seat 2: XRatholerX ( $2146.75)
Seat 3: Notafish111 ( $228)
Seat 4: drewnewbie ( $1005)
Seat 5: CobbsTaiwan ( $1091)
Seat 6: EmpireMaker2 ( $3822.56)
drewnewbie posts small blind (5)
CobbsTaiwan posts big blind (10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EmpireMaker2 [ 4h, 4s ]
EmpireMaker2 raises (36) to 36
nysizzle folds.
XRatholerX raises (120) to 120
Notafish111 folds.
drewnewbie folds.
CobbsTaiwan folds.
EmpireMaker2 calls (84)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4d, Jc, Qd ]
EmpireMaker2 checks.
XRatholerX bets (175)
EmpireMaker2 raises (499) to 499
XRatholerX calls (324)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8d ]
EmpireMaker2 checks.
XRatholerX bets (675)
I......

[GTL]

I raise a lot more on the flop if I go for the check raise instead of leading out. I would make it something like 800 straight. On the turn if I check then I am just calling this rather small bet depending on how i feel this opponent will play his flush. How come you made such a small raise on the flop?

[EmpireMaker2]

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I raise a lot more on the flop if I go for the check raise instead of leading out. I would make it something like 800 straight. On the turn if I check then I am just calling this rather small bet depending on how i feel this opponent will play his flush. How come you made such a small raise on the flop?

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To make it look like im stealing......

[Apathy]

I like a shove.

[GotDonkPoker]

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I like a shove.

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[B Buddy]

I like a call. I don't understand the flop play of checkraising a small amount on a dangerous board like that.

[Apathy]

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I like a call. I don't understand the flop play of checkraising a small amount on a dangerous board like that.

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I think thats the point, its for deceptive value.

[The_Earner]

How wide do you think he's reraise standard is PF? Any pocket +55, most broadways +AJs and some SC, in position against you?

I like your line on the flop and on the turn. The question is, do you just call or do you move in (I dont see folding as an option here, against this guy and with your holding)? I think you could make a statemeant for both...
If you just call, he would probebly fire a 3:e bullet on the river regardless holding and river card. This way you could get value from much lesser holdings, risking the same amount as you would if you C/R AI on the turn. The problem with that move is that he would get an really easy exit with all bluffs, semi-bluffs and lighter-holdings, e.g. forceing him to have a real hand.
That being sad, I would C/C the turn and reavalueat the river.

If we go back to his holding. How wide do you think it is here, when he calls your C/R? Could he have air, just calling to bluff you or do we haveto give him creeds for atleast TPTK? How do you think he would play a big-draw or a bigger set against you on this flop? Would he 3 bet does hands or just smooth call?

//My english sucks btw, but I hope you understand the essence of my post.

[CASINOCASINO]

I was thinking of calling but i dont think its the right move. Only have 1000 behind.

[gol4pro]

Lead the flop and this hand is exponentially easier to play because.

a) pot is smaller on the turn because he doesn't raise
b) Pot is massive on the turn and you're both committed because he did raise.

As played... flip a coin.