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Old 06-07-2006, 02:38 PM
Atropos Atropos is offline
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Default Flopping monsters from the blinds

Hey folks,
I think I have a problem with these situations, where I'm either small blind or big blind, have a strange hand and get a reasonable good / very strong hand like two pair / flush etc... I normally play these fast, because I'm out of position and dont want to fool around too much. On the other hand nobody can suspect I have a great hand, so maybe I should try to checkraise more. Here are some "Blindmonsters" where I would appreciate comments on the lines (I dont have any reads on my opponents in these situations, because of 8tabling):

Hand 1:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($270.75)
Button ($72.84)
Hero ($200)
BB ($136.52)
UTG ($273.26)
MP ($525.93)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($18) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

River: ($18) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $30

Hand 2:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($381.55)
Hero ($230.95)
UTG ($189.90)
MP ($72.95)
CO ($81.50)
Button ($161)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($8) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, SB calls $5.

River: ($18) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls $12.

Final Pot: $42

Hand 3:
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Button ($162)
Hero ($388.11)
BB ($108.25)
UTG ($229.14)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $9.15</font>, Hero calls $9.15, BB folds.

Turn: ($24.30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($24.30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: $24.30

Hand 4:
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Hero ($203)
BB ($90.50)
UTG ($131.40)
MP ($193.75)
CO ($46.80)
Button ($66.12)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB folds, CO folds, Button calls $5.

Turn: ($18) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $15.

River: ($58) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $58

Hand 5:
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CO ($164.99)
Button ($96.15)
Hero ($229.76)
BB ($277.78)
UTG ($185.75)
MP ($126.14)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, UTG calls $3, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($15) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $10</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $70
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:47 PM
Fallen Hero Fallen Hero is offline
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Default Re: Flopping monsters from the blinds

hand 1 looks good although I think your river bet is too big, after two big scare cards hit I don't think a worse hand is calling very often.

hand 2 raise pf, raise the flop, the rest looks good

hand 3 omfg, bet everywhere.

hand 4 semi-bluffing into 3 players is sort of..meh, but if you get there for christ's sake bet.

hand 5 I like a raise pf but I don't mind the call. Bet bigger on the flop.



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I normally play these fast

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from the examples you've posted this isn't true at all, there's FPS everywhere.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Flopping monsters from the blinds

I don't like your line on hands 3 and 4
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:54 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: Flopping monsters from the blinds

Hands 3 and 4 are particularly poor. You flop a flush in hand 3 and never bet it? Oy.

Hand 4 -- you choose to lead into the field with your draw. Ok. And then when the draw hits, you check?!? You can give off the "I'm scared of the flush" vibe just as easily with a $11 bet and still get some value at the same time.
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