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Old 06-07-2006, 09:29 AM
nevereverwin nevereverwin is offline
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Default 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

No reads. Villain is new to table.

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50./$1.
3 players
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Stack sizes:
Button: $125.85
Hero: $96
BB: $101.50

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Button folds, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $2</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($36, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $83.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $78</font>.
Uncalled bets: $103 returned to Hero.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($119.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $203)


Results:
Final pot: $119.5
<font color="#ffffff">BB shows Jh Jd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows 2d Ac</font>
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:33 AM
Badgerpoo Badgerpoo is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

Jesus just what are you beating here? Yuo have the most bottom of pairs possible, albeit with a nfd. I personally think letting this go pf is ok.

Also, on the turn how do you justify calling that huuuuge raise? You no longer have implied odds for hitting the flush and I seriously doubt your pair of deuces is good.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:53 AM
cantsitstillbr cantsitstillbr is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

If I was playing this hand I'd have folded preflop. I dunno what I think about the flop. On the turn I check and raise all in if he bets.
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:54 AM
nevereverwin nevereverwin is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

I am not about beating here, but make him fold his hand! I think villain is folding here a lot of hands + if he does not I have a lot of outs to beat him!

P.S. Folding preflop?? You allways fold an A in hedsup to minraise? I think thats -EV if y do so.
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

A2o is fine. Why are you trying to fold him and what will fold anyway?

If he has one club you want him to chase hit and pay you off. If he has two you can push and he isn't folding. If he has a set he has to suk to drop it. Two pair or top pair might fold to the flop reraise but when he shows willing to stay then pushes the turn you have to give up on it.

You need 3:1 to chase IF your two 2 outs are good. Without them you need 4:1 and your getting 2.5:1 on a call. FOLD
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:27 AM
Freerollin` Freerollin` is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

WTF? What are you doing here? Yes, you overplayed it.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:00 PM
Badgerpoo Badgerpoo is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

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I am not about beating here, but make him fold his hand!

[/ QUOTE ]

Aha! The bluff call! I like it.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:05 PM
Cry Me A River Cry Me A River is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

I have no problem calling the min raise PF since you'll get paid off when you flop 2 pair against his A9.

However, your flop play is horrible. If villain is a donkey who will pay you off with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or other weaker flush when a four flush comes then you can call, otherwise fold unless you think you can stop&amp;go. Raising is horrible. If he's flopped a flush he's not folding. If he has an overpair he's not folding. If he's flopped top pair, he's probably not folding. If he's drawing to the flush you don't want him to fold, you want to stack him if the flush comes.

I don't understand your turn play at all. He's just called your flop re-raise, do you think he's folding to a &lt; 3/4 PSB? He didn't believe you flopped the flush (or he flopped one himself) now you expect him to believe you made your straight after you raised flop? When he pushes, do you think you're actually ahead? You really think he's bluffing? You're not getting odds to call anything:

(BTW: There seems to be a problem with stack and/or pot sizes: "Hero: $96" but $2PF, $16Flop, $25+$78turn = $121 and why are "Uncalled bets: $103 returned to Hero". Is the final pot $119.50 or $203? Must be $203)


http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1772705
pokenum -h 2d ac - 9h jh -- 2c 9c 8c td
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 9c 8c 2c Td
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 2d 14 31.82 30 68.18 0 0.00 0.318
Jh 9h 30 68.18 14 31.82 0 0.00 0.682

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1772707
pokenum -h 2d ac - qh qd -- 2c 9c 8c td
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 9c 8c 2c Td
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 2d 14 31.82 30 68.18 0 0.00 0.318
Qd Qh 30 68.18 14 31.82 0 0.00 0.682

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1772711
pokenum -h 2d ac - kc qc -- 2c 9c 8c td
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 9c 8c 2c Td
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 2d 7 15.91 37 84.09 0 0.00 0.159
Kc Qc 37 84.09 7 15.91 0 0.00 0.841
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

i agree with free rollin
WTF??

eww.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 100NL 6 max. Whats your plan here? Do I overplayed it?

i would call down with correct pot odds, fold w/o correct pot odds because you are probably not going to get paid off if you complete the flush anyway........
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