Change of pace

3rdCheckRaise · #1 06-06-2006, 11:09 PM

I do not remember last time i played JJ this way but felt like changing pace a bit. Both opponents in this hand are regulars on Party15, i played with both about 5K hands...
MP1 is 27.6/13.6/1.5 and MP2 is a 2+2er 19.6/8/1.7 but flop AF is 2.6...
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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (6.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.33 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (15.33 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

Hero bets, MP1 calls

Final Pot: 15.33 BB

sharpie · #2 06-06-2006, 11:12 PM

Eww, raise PF and 3 bet the flop.

SGS · #3 06-06-2006, 11:14 PM

I really don't like not raising pre-flop here. How you played it, I 3 bet the flop and go from there.

SGS

3rdCheckRaise · #4 06-06-2006, 11:47 PM

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I really don't like not raising pre-flop here. How you played it, I 3 bet the flop and go from there.

SGS

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I agree with you about preflop but having not raised and MP2 being last bettor on the flop (at the time) i felt that turn pop would be better...no?

SGS · #5 06-07-2006, 12:13 AM

I think the thing is I would kind of rather get MP1 out of there, or at least make him pay two bets for his 5 outs.

SGS

Nate tha\\\' Great · #6 06-07-2006, 12:14 AM

I don't like any street except the river.

Dazarath · #7 06-07-2006, 12:16 AM

If you 3-bet, you will most likely fold out BB and UTG+1, while also facing MP1 with two more cold.

3rdCheckRaise · #8 06-07-2006, 09:50 AM

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If you 3-bet, you will most likely fold out BB and UTG+1, while also facing MP1 with two more cold.

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Do you think that there are holdings that BB and UTG+1 can call 2 with but not 3? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Like i said in the begining nothing in this hand was done the way i would normaly do it. My thinking on the flop was that if i want to trim the field i would have to do it on the turn. Without knowing what the action would look like bihind me on the flop i had to guess that initial bet on the turn would come from MP2 and that gives me a chance to clean the field. If i knew that flop would get 3 betted from Mp1 i would 3betted myself. Also MP1(Legba) is so flaky that i may be 3 betted on the turn while holding by far the best hand.

colgin · #9 06-07-2006, 02:10 PM

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I do not remember last time i played JJ this way but felt like changing pace a bit.

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Well, I hope you got that out of your system.