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Old 01-16-2006, 03:25 AM
Etaipo Etaipo is offline
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Default 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

i think i goofed here.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">MP1 (t825)</font>
MP2 (t1565)
CO (t910)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t695)</font>
Hero (t2250)
BB (t2480)
UTG (t1275)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].



UTG folds, MP1 is all-In [825], 2 folds, Button is all-In [695].

What's your line?
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:32 AM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

Fold.

Edit: Hmm. The BB is 200. Not so clearcut as I thought maybe. I still think I fold, but mayby I shouldnt?
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

You did not fold did you??
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

I call but I suck at poker and life...
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

You're really only &lt; 33% to win if you're up against QQ-AA or AK here. After that, the worst case scenario is Ax + an underpair, and that is at least +cEV. Lots of scenarios (say, AT vs KT vs AQ) leave you in a great situation (52% to win that matchup). I think with the stacks that low, their ranges are certainly large enough that calling is +EV, especially since you still have t1400 to push yourself even if you lose.
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:45 AM
Etaipo Etaipo is offline
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

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You did not fold did you??

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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

any reads?
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Old 01-16-2006, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

best you could hope for here to is have two over cards to each of your opponents which still isn't great with two opponents, you're still over 10x BB so let it pass
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Old 01-16-2006, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

Has anyone calculated the EV of this yet? I'm leaning towards a call. If MP1 is not a total rock he could be pushing a lot of hands and Button could be making a desperation call or might realize that MP1 could be pushing with a wide range and hence reduce his calling range. I would imagine AQ would be the best hand a majority of the time.
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Old 01-16-2006, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: 109, 2 shorties all in, I think I suck.

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i think i goofed here.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">MP1 (t825)</font>
MP2 (t1565)
CO (t910)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t695)</font>
Hero (t2250)
BB (t2480)
UTG (t1275)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].



UTG folds, MP1 is all-In [825], 2 folds, Button is all-In [695].

What's your line?

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Insta-fold. Just let these two aholes fight it out and find a better spot.
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