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Old 06-03-2006, 12:13 AM
WildBobAA WildBobAA is offline
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Default Early 55K hand, am I crazy for folding this?

I'll post my reasoning after this gets some replies. I just got moved to the table so I have no reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t8715)
MP2 (t10266)
CO (t7000)
Hero (t30102)
SB (t42233)
BB (t10625)
UTG (t6155)
UTG+1 (t10690)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t200, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t875) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800, SB folds, BB calls t800.

Turn: (t3275) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t2200</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t1400.

River: (t8475) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t7400 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t15875
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:31 AM
CRACKme CRACKme is offline
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Default Re: Early 55K hand, am I crazy for folding this?

Tough...
i'd go broke here
if for some reason he has a set then he wins...2pair likely w/ no ace...

can't say that folding is a good play here, you win more than you're beat...as AK, AQ raise pre, AJ might limp there but whatelse are you worried about?

2cents..
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:40 AM
legend42 legend42 is offline
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Default Re: Early 55K hand, am I crazy for folding this?

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as AK, AQ raise pre, AJ might limp there but whatelse are you worried about?

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A5, A2, 55, 22, 43.

That's a very tough fold, especially since you had a stack that could absorb that hit, but it's probably a good one. His turn check-raise into two players is strong, even if it was relatively small. And if he did have a counterfeited 2 pair, I don't think he'd shove the river.

Next time, raise the f'in turn, man.
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Old 06-03-2006, 01:51 AM
JCool JCool is offline
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Default Re: Early 55K hand, am I crazy for folding this?

Either he made a straight on the turn or he's FOS. Even though the big overbet on the river is suspicious, without a read, I'd probably fold too. What else besides 34 makes sense to check pf, check call the flop and check raise the turn with?
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Old 06-03-2006, 02:58 AM
WildBobAA WildBobAA is offline
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Default Re: Early 55K hand, am I crazy for folding this?

Here's my reasoning: The BB got a free flop so he could have anything. He CR'd 2 people on the turn which signals a made hand, possibly 34o, a set of 2s, 5s, or aces up. I just call the bet because I have the NFD and I want to see what he does on the river, plus if I hit my flush, he's heavily invested and there's a good chance I'll get his stack. After his push, I really feel I'm beat. Also, I can fold and I still have a ton of chips. Still, it was a tough laydown.
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Old 06-03-2006, 05:59 AM
yellowdoyle yellowdoyle is offline
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Default Re: Early 55K hand, am I crazy for folding this?

Ugh, very tough spot IMO. You only have to be right 1/2 the time to make this a positive call....

I suppose I could fold, but that would be because I was thinking about the next hand, and would rather have the extra 7k in chips for sure to use. Thinking about this hand in a vaccuum (which is almost never a good idea), I am leaning towards call.

Note - I sometimes, esp in the deepstackish rebuys, try to win big pots early (and thus lose my fair share of big pots as well [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]). Not sure if that is a good thought to have when deciding about this particular hand though.
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