2 live hands against stoxtrader

[Evan]

Borgata 40/80 - 4 handed
SB and button are really bad, stox is not

I am BB with J8o

Stox opens, button calls, SB calls, I call

Flop: 8h 6h 2s
SB checks, I check, stox bets, button calls, SB calls, I raise, stox 3 bets, button folds, SB folds, I call

Turn: 9c
What do you do?



Borgata 40/80 - 4 handed
Button is really bad

I am SB with A8s

Button opens, I 3 bet, stox 4 bets, button calls, I call

Flop: As Ah 3s
I check, stox bets, button calls, I raise, stox 3 bets, button folds, I 4 bet

[Paluka]

You did the opposite of what I would have done in both hands. I would have 4 bet flop in hand 1, and just called in hand 2. Hand 2 I'm not even sure checkraising the flop is right.

[Medra]

1st hand check fold turn

2nd bet out turn and river. Send it!

[Jeffage]

I would just bet the flop in hand one. Why are you trying to build a big pot?

On hand 2, I would just call the three bet planning to bet out on most turn cards...why give him a cheap way off buried pockets esp. if he knows you respect him?

Jeff

[CardSharpCook]

I like leading out in hand one. I'd like to clear out SOME of the overcards and I think the best way to do that is to bet. Stox will often raise hoping to clean up his overcards and possibly get a free card. All players should recognize that you probably have a pair and some will fold even for a SB. Having played the way you did and getting 4bet, I think it is time to go into call down mode. I'm slightly afraid that he has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and if I check the turn, he'll take his free card, but hell, with a hand like that, he'd still get 1/3 of all the turn action anyway (in Skalansky dollars). Also, if I bet and he raises, I'd have to seriously consider folding, and I hate folding.

Hand 2... I think he knows you have an ace now.....

[geormiet]

Yeah, I don't really like either.

hand 1 - You're sort of representing a draw with your checkraise. This makes it harder to read stox's hand, and as played you might want to go to showdown for this reason. I prefer leading out.

hand 2 - I see no reason to 4 bet the flop, even though you have the flush draw.

[brettbrettr]

What does stox think of you, you of him, other hands you've played etc.

[The DaveR]

[ QUOTE ]
You did the opposite of what I would have done in both hands. I would have 4 bet flop in hand 1, and just called in hand 2. Hand 2 I'm not even sure checkraising the flop is right.


[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, ditto.

Now, I think you lead the turn in hand 1, and check/call hand 2.

[Justin A]

Evan,

Hand 2 you hold the As and it's on the board. What's really going on?

[Michael Davis]

When did hand one become a standard preflop call?

-Michael