deep with set, too weak?

klonpucko · #1 06-02-2006, 08:58 AM

villain has been very active, laggy and seemed pretty good postflop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($2391.38)
UTG ($691.50)
Hero ($1718.11)
Button ($259)
SB ($637)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, BB calls $15.

Flop: ($45) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35, BB calls $35.

Turn: ($115) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $85, BB raises to $225, Hero calls $140.

River: ($565) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $450, Hero calls $450.

Final Pot: $1465

AllIn3High · #2 06-02-2006, 08:59 AM

I think I play it the same.

Reef · #3 06-02-2006, 09:01 AM

well, the ONLY thing worried about here is 56. If BB NEVER ch-raises, I'm playing it like you. If he's c/r somewhat often, EZ 3 bet. Since he's laggy, I'm thinking Ax. Would suck to see 56 though.

also, maybe 1 in 5 of these situations I check turn to induce river bluff.

klonpucko · #4 06-02-2006, 09:05 AM

checking turn would be so wrong.

AllIn3High · #5 06-02-2006, 09:09 AM

No one is advocating a turn check.

Does he call a river raise with A7/A8/A4?

I doubt most reasonable players would I think just calling the river is best (b/c 77 or 56) seem like the most likely hands (that will still call a raise). And ofcourse there's the slim posibilty of him having gotten tricky preflop w/ AA.

Kilillan · #6 06-02-2006, 09:29 AM

Is there any merit to betting 200 on the turn with these stacks?

Reef · #7 06-02-2006, 09:38 AM

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in this particular hand I agree. With tricky villian, not always.

AllIn3High · #8 06-02-2006, 09:42 AM

Oops sorry, didn't see reef actually recommeded checking the turn sometimes. I don't think I would ever do that here.

What hands are you looking to induce a bluff from? T9 seems like the only hand that *might* bet the river if you check turn (maybe under 99-JJ?). I think I would be more inclinded to check the turn with a hand like AJ-AK to induce a bet from worse hands.

FGators · #9 06-02-2006, 10:37 AM

His line looks very 56esque. I play it the same. He calls out of the blind with 56, which is reasonable. Check/calls the flop hoping to hit the big card and then raises you. Then fires out a normal looking, almost pot sized bet on the river.

Im like never raising here and we beat too much to fold, in the event he has a set or two pair.

Isura · #10 06-02-2006, 12:29 PM

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Is there any merit to betting 200 on the turn with these stacks?

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How often are you betting 2x the pot with on the turn against a thinking decent player?