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When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
I have no idea how to play this hand correctly and no idea how it got played the way it did. Villain is a regular at 3/6 but he's not very good - tends to call a bit too much. I'm pretty sure question marks literally appeared above my head when he played it as he did:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com UTG ($611) MP ($86.75) CO ($128.13) Button ($1210) SB (Villain) ($792) Hero ($1137.60) Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB (Villain) posts a blind of $3. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB(Villain) (poster) raises to $27</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $94</font>, MP folds, SB(Villain) calls $70. Flop: ($206) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $150</font>, Hero calls $150. Turn: ($506) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $380</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $886 |
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
what are his stats, and who is he? If he's a tag this is a definite fold, if he's a lag i'm pushing turn or raising flop and getting it all in if he comes over the top.
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
Why not just raise the flop? He's not folding 88-JJ.
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
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Why not just raise the flop? He's not folding 88-JJ. [/ QUOTE ] i think thats a little far fetched...... we didn't hear how large triump's 3-betting range had been, but him 3-betting a raise from the SB shows some strength. 88-JJ would NOT bet/call here unless the villian was tilting or bad. |
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
It's breecedjp, ender - in between TAG and LAG. I think I had him at like 33/16 before but by this hand he was down to 25/12 - definitely tightening up. He's made some bizarre moves in the past but that flop lead really had me confused.
I hated the idea of pushing the turn since TT is now ahead of me - all I beat is JJ. Since there's a shortstacked limper in the hand (a donkey, but still a limper), he can't be on air or some sort of goofy nonsense, and this was the first time I'd seen him raise out of the blinds in this spot all night. |
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
Ive only played him a little bit, but he played extremely tight against me. I'm guessing he rarely raises out of the blinds, and you're probably up against AA/KK here. He was definitely playing pretty passive with some strong hands tonight, so I doubt you were ahead, good fold.
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
WHy call the flop lead if you intended on folding the turn bet? Imo, either pop the flop or release it
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
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WHy call the flop lead if you intended on folding the turn bet? Imo, either pop the flop or release it [/ QUOTE ] This is a good point and I agree. If you put him on the higher pair you know it's going to cost you more on later streets. |
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
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[ QUOTE ] WHy call the flop lead if you intended on folding the turn bet? Imo, either pop the flop or release it [/ QUOTE ] This is a good point and I agree. If you put him on the higher pair you know it's going to cost you more on later streets. [/ QUOTE ] he could be playing something like 99-jj this way, but usually would not fire the turn again. i dont mind the flop call as the turn will usually define his hand well and there may be enough value to take one off here. |
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Re: When nothing makes any sense anymore... (3/6 NL 6 max)
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I'm guessing he rarely raises out of the blinds [/ QUOTE ] If this is the case, wouldn't a smooth call pre-flop be best? If he's tight raising out of the blinds, his range would be something like AA-TT, AK-AQ. By re-raising, I think we give him the opportunity to play perfectly against us: he'll lose the least with TT-JJ and win the most with AA-KK by possibly stacking us. |
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