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Old 05-31-2006, 02:38 AM
brendons31 brendons31 is offline
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Default AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

Didn't know a lot about villian other than that he was 80/15 over 40 hands, so obviously very loose.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $235.35
UTG+1: $171
CO: $157
Button: $274.35
Hero: $280.65
BB: $232.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $11</font>, 2 folds, Button calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($26, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $17</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($60, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $140</font>, hero????

Do you push here, call here and see the river, or just get away from aa thinking its no good??
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:41 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

This smells pretty much like a 3. I think there's a chance an idiot could play 77-99 like this too, so I might push and lose.
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:44 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

if he's that loose, push. you'll win often, and you'll take it back from him if you dont win it this time.
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:10 AM
garganasaur garganasaur is offline
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Default Re: AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

I like to push and if I lose, I lose. They could have some bad over pair that you're crushing or even a good pair that you're crushing like a KK or QQ that they played pretty passively. Some people simply don't get more than one or two raises in with their big hands, for whatever reason. If they got a set, you're suppose to lose to that, and a three is just unfortunate. A lot of players, mostly better ones, will set a big turn raise as a bluff for trips. While this prolly isn't the case, get it in. I really think you'll win more times than not. He even might have top pair ace kicker and be playing it rough. Soooo many hands you can beat...
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:27 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

Bet more on the flop, you're missing value.

As others have said he's loose and I'm not mucking aces HU to 80/15
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Old 05-31-2006, 01:38 PM
brendons31 brendons31 is offline
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Default Re: AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

What happened here is I pushed, he called and he has 24 soooted lol to give him the str8. Was about the last hand I expected to see. I posted this hand becasue basically I was wondering if there was any way i could get away from it on the turn knowing that someone this loose could easily have a 3 in his hand from how loose he is. However i made the push thinking someone like this could easily have an over pair or even top pair with an ace so was just wondering if my line was right.
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Old 05-31-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

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he called and he has 24 soooted lol to give him the str8

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Bet more on the flop. He's getting the right implied odds to draw to a gutshot if you're going to bet small on the flop and then stack off when he hits.
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:04 PM
junkmail3 junkmail3 is offline
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Default Re: AA against facing raise on turn against very loose player?

Betting 9 more dollars on the flop is not going to change his implied odds if he hits and you still stack off.

(I still bet more on the flop - but it doesn't really change his implied odds going forward.)
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