The stop and go blind defence

Mik1w · #1 05-30-2006, 04:52 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 ($69.15)
MP3 ($18.05)
CO ($106)
Button ($40)
SB ($24.65)
Hero ($51.10)
UTG ($54)
UTG+1 ($43.75)
MP1 ($84.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3

lautzutao · #2 05-30-2006, 04:56 PM

You have to have SOME part of this board to try this crap...I don't like it at all.

EDIT: wth are you calling w/ 96o...

keikiwai · #3 05-30-2006, 04:57 PM

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keikiwai · #4 05-30-2006, 04:58 PM

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keikiwai · #5 05-30-2006, 05:00 PM

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Mik1w · #6 05-30-2006, 05:03 PM

ok keikiwai I usually respect your replies and you seem like a long term poster, but three beratements in a row, with no constructive comments at all, this is stupid.

Grunch · #7 05-30-2006, 05:04 PM

Locking the developing flamewar.

edit: I'm unlocking this becasue I was mistaken about who was instigating the flamewar here.

Mik1w · #8 05-31-2006, 02:46 PM

seems a lot of people hate it.. would no one try it even against someone with a very high PFR%?

keikiwai · #9 05-31-2006, 02:50 PM

Mik1w, you didn't provide a high pfr read in your OP.

Also, you flop bet is pretty weak if you expect an aggressive opponent to fold, which is what you want here.

I think re-raising pf, is better then calling and leading any turn. If his pfr is very high he will often lay down to a pfrr, but if you call, you give him a chance to see the flop. It will be very hard for us to interpret whether the flop hit him or not, since he has such a wide pfr range.

Both lines cost the same, but the pfrr has a higher chance of success.

djoyce003 · #10 05-31-2006, 02:54 PM

defending your blinds with total crap hands is a huge leak mike.

If you are going to defend here, reraise. I'd rather you reraised with complete crap (this hand for instance) than just taking a passive line with it. Imaging your 69 is AA, play it that way.

I'm not advocating reraising here, just pointing out it's better than calling. If CO is a good player, he's going to put you to a tough decision with your bad hand out of position. If CO is a bad player, he won't fold and your hand has zero showdown value unless you hit the flop huge. See your dilemna? A good player could bluff you here, tell you he's bluffing and you still can't call.