WPEX HH - Winning hole cards exposed even if no showdown

[qwnu]

Apologies if this has been covered before and is well-known, but I didn't know about this until today. Here's a hand where a turn bet was not called, yet the HH shows the bettor had Kh9c (deduced from the HiHand in the last line).

I don't know if I think it's as big a deal as the guy who was ranting about it at the table, but it's definitely something to be aware of. If you push someone off a hand, they can determine what you had. If someone pushes you off a hand, you can determine what he had.

Note: The following hand history is deliberately in raw form. Only my sn has been altered.

***** Hand history (v1.1) *****
Hand ID 37555039
0.25/0.50 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - GMT Mon May 29 20:00:10 2006
Table 'Texas Hold 'em', 10 seats max, not started, Real money, Money game
Seat 7 is the button. SmallBlind 0.10, BigBlind 0.25
Note: seat IDs range from 0 to 9
Seat 0 (playing): JacobB (149680), amount $22.50, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
Seat 1 (playing): bigbat (126612), amount $45.90, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
Seat 2 (playing): senzor (164808), amount $23.00, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
Seat 4 (playing): Boyish (157945), amount $8.35, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
Seat 5 (playing): HERO (152361), amount $31.45, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
Seat 6 (playing): pjokken (158882), amount $25.80, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
Seat 7 (playing): mytv (42754), amount $28.25, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 8 (playing): WarCrimes (150919), amount $56.40, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
Seat 9 (playing): Smolty (154661), amount $25.45, amount bet $0.00, penalty
(None)
WarCrimes: Small Blind ($0.10)
Smolty: Big Blind ($0.25)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to HERO: [ Tc Qd ]
JacobB: Fold ($0.00)
bigbat: Fold ($0.00)
senzor: Call ($0.25)
Boyish: Fold ($0.00)
HERO: Fold ($0.00)
pjokken: Fold ($0.00)
mytv: Fold ($0.00)
WarCrimes: Fold ($0.00)
Smolty: Check ($0.00)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [ 8s 2d Ks ]
Smolty: Check ($0.00)
senzor: Check ($0.00)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [ 5d ]
Smolty: Bet ($0.25)
senzor: Fold ($0.00)
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
Smolty: Muck ($0.00)
** Showdown **
Main pot $0.60, Rake $0.00
Summary HERO: bet $0.00, won $0.00, net $0.00
Summary Smolty: bet $0.50, won $0.60, net +$0.10, HiHand [one pair, kings][ Ks
Kh 9c 8s 5d ], won $0.60 from main pot

[kipin]

Can anyone who has more than 17 posts confirm this?

[Jenno99]

I found this,

***** Hand history (v1.1) *****
Hand ID 32093535
0.10/0.20 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - GMT Sun Apr 16 15:53:10 2006
Table 'Kicker', 10 seats max, not started, Real money, Money game
Seat 4 is the button. SmallBlind 0.05, BigBlind 0.10
Note: seat IDs range from 0 to 9
Seat 0 (playing): shrek666 (154593), amount $6.35, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing): jenno99 (153992), amount $10.00, amount bet $0.00, penalty (Big Blind)
Seat 3 (playing): LgaJimmy (129398), amount $3.98, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing): DerSvennemann (136863), amount $6.50, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing): punkess (152393), amount $7.35, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing): axegrinder (153776), amount $5.00, amount bet $0.00, penalty (Big Blind)
punkess: Small Blind ($0.05)
axegrinder: Big Blind ($0.10)
jenno99: Big Blind ($0.10)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to jenno99: [ 9c Jc ]
shrek666: Raise ($0.20)
jenno99: Call ($0.10)
LgaJimmy: Fold ($0.00)
DerSvennemann: Call ($0.20)
punkess: Fold ($0.00)
axegrinder: Call ($0.10)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [ 3s Kh Ac ]
axegrinder: Check ($0.00)
shrek666: Bet ($0.75)
jenno99: Fold ($0.00)
DerSvennemann: Fold ($0.00)
axegrinder: Fold ($0.00)
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
shrek666: Muck ($0.00)
** Showdown **
Main pot $0.85, Rake $0.00
Summary shrek666: bet $0.95, won $0.85, net -$0.10, HiHand [one pair, threes][ 3s 3d Ac Kh Td ], won $0.85 from main pot
Summary jenno99: bet $0.20, won $0.00, net -$0.20

and this,

***** Hand history (v1.1) *****
Hand ID 32094043
1.00/2.00 Texas Hold'em (Split Limit) - GMT Sun Apr 16 16:06:08 2006
Table 'Edge Odds', 5 seats max, not started, Real money, Money game
Seat 0 is the button. SmallBlind 0.50, BigBlind 1.00
Note: seat IDs range from 0 to 9
Seat 0 (playing): pochlov (154547), amount $42.25, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 1 (playing): mixan (154594), amount $43.00, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing): jenno99 (153992), amount $90.25, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing): Kriptych (151319), amount $42.25, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing): asghaa (43904), amount $12.00, amount bet $0.00, penalty (None)
mixan: Small Blind ($0.50)
jenno99: Big Blind ($1.00)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to jenno99: [ 8s 2c ]
Kriptych: Fold ($0.00)
asghaa: Raise ($2.00)
pochlov: Fold ($0.00)
mixan: Call ($1.50)
jenno99: Fold ($0.00)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [ 9h 8c Jd ]
mixan: Bet ($1.00)
asghaa: Fold ($0.00)
** End Round **
** Evaluate **
mixan: Muck ($0.00)
** Showdown **
Main pot $4.75, Rake $0.25
Summary mixan: bet $3.00, won $4.75, net +$1.75, HiHand [two pairs, jacks and nines][ Jd Jc 9h 9c 8c ], won $4.75 from main pot
Summary jenno99: bet $1.00, won $0.00, net -$1.00

Unfortunately this will only be my 18th post.

[Loser]

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Can anyone who has more than 17 posts confirm this?

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Jenno99 coming in with 18 posts vn

[VielGeld]

its true. if you import your hands into PT only some i don't know why not all of the hands that did not went to showdown are shown. very weird imo

[spino1i]

Yup... I can confirm this, unfortunately..

[Reef]

wow, they need to get their shiznit together

[LoveDub]

So anyone of you guys sent this info to WPEX?

[buriedbeds]

I did; they said they know about it and their technicians are working to fix it. Hopefully they'll get to it quick...maybe I should tighten up in the meantime. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-bb.

[Alobar]

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I did; they said they know about it and their technicians are working to fix it. Hopefully they'll get to it quick...maybe I should tighten up in the meantime. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-bb.

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Im not playing there anymore until they get this fixed. So hopefully they get it fixed quick