109s: 3-handed with TP Ace, SB bets pot

[MUD]

PartyPoker $109 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1880)
UTG+1 (t1115)
MP1 (t2000)
MP2 (t2000)
MP3 (t1780)
CO+1 (t2480)
CO (t1820)
Button (t2965)
SB (t1960)
Hero (t2000)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t40, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t20, Hero checks

Flop: (t120) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t120</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, MP3 calls t120

Turn: (t360) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t240</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>

Limper is decent multi-tabler. Never seen SB before. Standard fold?

More importantly what read do you need on both to make it not a fold? And if you are gonna play what's the line?

[curtains]

looks normal to me.

[MUD]

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looks normal to me.

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Nice having you at the 109s.

Is there any read that would make you play in this pot?

[curtains]

Yeah if SB was really bad and crazy

[AMT]

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Yeah if SB was really bad and crazy

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i dont think youll ever want to get involved in an awkward spot where youre not sure where youre at here with anything short of a crazy SB. youve given up nothing on the hand and i usually hate to play big pots with TP no kick in an unraised pot readless.

[tigerite]

Honestly can't see much of a reason to get involved here, you have top pair but your kicker will almost for sure not play by the time the river comes. This is a hand with bad reverse implied odds for you, even though it might not look it, and is better off folded against the majority of opponents.

[Scuba Chuck]

Better than that blind battle you played against me [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[ALReturnsLOL]

nh

[UMTerp]

What hand makes sense for the "decent multitabling limper"? That's the intriguing part to me. I'd imagine he's call down with AQ. Maybe something like 44-99 (not 88 obviously), and he was just hoping to steal the pot on the turn if the SB showed weakness? I can't imagine a good player limping with a jack in his hand.

[ALReturnsLOL]

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What hand makes sense for the "decent multitabling limper"? That's the intriguing part to me. I'd imagine he's call down with AQ. Maybe something like 44-99 (not 88 obviously), and he was just hoping to steal the pot on the turn if the SB showed weakness? I can't imagine a good player limping with a jack in his hand.

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IMO if he is bluffing the line he is taking is really odd. This certainly isn't the best board to bluff at, not to mention that he made a pot size bet and he is OOP. Does not add up as a bluff to me.