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Old 05-25-2006, 09:49 PM
Mik1w Mik1w is offline
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Default Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 ($36.35)
CO ($3.35)
Hero ($24.45)
SB ($15.80)
BB ($12)
UTG ($16.60)
UTG+1 ($25.55)
MP1 ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3, BB folds.

Turn: ($9) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $11.8 (All-In)</font>

This one killed me. First time in a while I was concerned with my time bank on pokerstars. Absolutely no reads, first orbit. Want to find out how marginal this is.
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Old 05-25-2006, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

wow tough one. It seems like he was slowplaying something but its just not obvious what. Also, there are decent draws on the board so we cant discount the fact that he might be getting frisky with Ax clubs or something. Jeez, I might fold just cause im just weak/tight like that.
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Old 05-25-2006, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

If there's a board you want to fold overpairs on, this is really it.
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Old 05-25-2006, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

Hard to put him on a straight here. He either has a set or 2 pair. Against a set you have some straight outs, against 2 pair you have straight out plus 2 ks, 3 6s. I have to look at the numbers but its close.
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Old 05-25-2006, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

sorry, I don't understand. There are no overpairs to that board that I beat if my understanding of overpair is correct...
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

he means fold your overpair, not get another to fold...
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

so he has a single pair and is trying to fold hands that beat him?

ie. its a flat out bluff?
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:17 PM
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no i think he means this is a good board to fold your KK on. He is saying most boards are not, but this one is...
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:21 PM
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oh right, I get it. so too many hands beat me to call this?
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Thinking long and hard... KK on QJT board, open push for pot

It's not like shorty made an enormous bet... it's basically pot and your open ended.

I probably call this just because I hate short stacks.

I think it's a close decisiong mostly because of your OESD...
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