How often losing with under flushes

[Digital Entropy]

I'm still relatively new to poker but consider myself a knowledgable player. Four of the last six flushes I have made have been under-flushes. One flush was beat by a single over, but the rest were a better both suited cards hand. And worse, I pressed them very strong. Am I going too far with my middle suited connectors when I flop a flush draw? I've noticed a pattern of opponent bet 1/3 pot, I raise to 4/5 pot, then opponent calls on flop. Does this line mean "I'm holding a suited ace" every time?! Noticed this at different levels ...less in the higher the money level as preflop raises tend to scare the suited aces out.

Six max, NL

[t75trc1]

Keep playing them if they're suited...suited cards are the best.

Just kidding...don't be willing to push all in with a smaller flush. Lots of people play suited cards, so if you aren't holding the ace, there's always that chance someone is.

[Ryan11]

Been happening more often to me as of late [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($204.73)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($300.48)</font>
UTG ($208.39)
UTG+1 ($267.30)
UTG+2 ($113.07)
MP1 ($95.02)
MP2 ($198)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($187)</font>
CO ($117.71)
Button ($55)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($41) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, BB calls $35.

River: ($141) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, BB calls $60.

Final Pot: $261

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ts Qs (flush, queen high).
Hero has 8s 7s (flush, jack high).
Outcome: BB wins $261. </font>

[Dave Coulier]

Its been a long time since ive gotten stacked with flush over flush. It might have something to do with the fact Im not a flush donkey like 75% online players are.

Anytime you're chasing a flush with suited connectors you probably have someone at the table playing K/2 or A/3 suited UTG chasing the same draw. I would just say be more cautious with weaker flushes but that makes me sound weak-tight, but there really isn't a valid excuse for getting stacked with flush over flush unless you're both already all-in before the flush gets there.

God damnit I sound so weak-tight...Someone shoot me NOW!

[Dan BRIGHT]

ryan - buddy list your opponent and bet more on the river

[jungy121]

wow he had a stronger draw then you, OESD too