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Old 05-24-2006, 02:00 PM
DVO DVO is offline
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Default Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

Late in a $33 multi tourney, yesterday, I made a big raise
with TT and the button went into the tank, deciding
whether to call. I Type: "I have black tens". I wanted
a fold... I think. I'm not really sure why I did it,
actually. Maybe it's part of my being on life-tilt
right now. It was dumb, but that's not really the point.

He folded.

I showed my black tens. He thanked me.

One of the players ( the SB ) said he was going to report me.
He did, I guess.

Below is PP's response.

I don't see the problem with this - players constantly
lie about what they have during the hand. I happened
to tell the truth!

I sent a reply to PP asking if I would still be in trouble if I turned over 7-2 after the hand.

And yes, I remember who the player is who reported me......

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Old 05-24-2006, 02:13 PM
_TKO_ _TKO_ is offline
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

SB and BB were still to act, so it's a punishable offense under most tournament rules.
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Old 05-24-2006, 02:14 PM
Rupert Rupert is offline
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

Can't do this live so don't see why you should be able to do it at once. The most common ruling is you can talk about anything you like except your own hand.
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Old 05-24-2006, 02:53 PM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

"I don't see the problem with this "

Since the Button was your buddy, of course not.

...see the problem now?
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:05 PM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

you should never be talking about the strength of your hand during play, whether you are lying or not.
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:18 PM
o0mr_bill0o o0mr_bill0o is offline
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

yeah, if he were the last one to act i don't think it would have been a problem. But even then, I just don't think it's a good idea...
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:23 PM
Mitch Evans Mitch Evans is offline
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

Let’s forget that there were still two people left to act for a second. Let’s say it was just the big blind contemplating a call. Headsup in a cash game, no big deal, it’s fine to discuss your hand. In a tournament, however, you are affecting everyone’s equity by altering the chip sizes.

Think of it like 20 places pay and 21 people are left. You have the opportunity to bust another player, but alter his stack by getting him to fold. You most likely just cost player 21 from cashing. It doesn’t matter how close the tournament is to cashing, at any time in a tournament; everyone is affected by altering chip stacks.

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Old 05-24-2006, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

You were wrong to discuss your cards. Whoever reported you had every right to do so. And Party was right to warn you not to do so in the future.
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

As TJ Cloutier said in the WSOP "You better be lieing when you talk about your hand or they'll slap a penality on you so quick it will make your head spin..Tell him Phil..." You should be happy with only getting a warning
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:33 PM
Wes Mantooth Wes Mantooth is offline
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Default Re: Scolded by Party for revealing my hand

lucky that party only gave you a slap on the wrist.
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