Simple Line Check...

[PokerSparky]

For some reason I feel a bit lost in these situations.

Villain is 30/17/2.5 over ~60 hands.

Do better players than me raise the flop? Do better players than me take this to showdown?

I figured the turn is the point of no return here. If I call the turn, I'm calling almost any river card.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

[sharpie]

Check/raise the flop.

[PokerSparky]

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Check/raise the flop.

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That's what I thought. I suck.

[Str8Fish]

I think this is a good fold. You've lost your backdoor flush draw and now only have 5 outs to improve on the river. We don't have pot odds to justify a call.

[Str8Fish]

what does a c/r the flop accomplish? It won't fold out the SB and if the villain raised with a K, we're screwed. Seems like we'd be donating more money for a situation where we lose more than we win.

[PokerSparky]

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what does a c/r the flop accomplish? It won't fold out the SB and if the villain raised with a K, we're screwed. Seems like we'd be donating more money for a situation where we lose more than we win.

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I think we have the best hand more than you (and I at the time) are giving credit for.

[sharpie]

What makes you think MP has a king? His bet on the flop is an auto bet. The main reason I'm check/raising is I don't want the turn checking through and let everyone see 2 cards for nothing, but there is also value in it.

[Str8Fish]

I'm new to 6-max and am starting to realize why I suck at it so much.

[Str8Fish]

Just for my edification, I threw this into PS:

41,787,545 games 27.157 secs 1,538,739 games/sec

Board: Jh 3d Kh
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 39.3768 % 38.49% 00.90% { 44+, A6s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, A9o+, KJo+ }
Hand 2: 60.6232 % 59.75% 00.90% { QhJs }

Here's a question for you guys... with this logic, is the autobet such a used technique in 6-max? Seems like it could be very expensive in the long run.

[sharpie]

In this instance, ignoring other benefits such as improving our hand/chances or getting a free card, it's usually profitable because he's risking 1 to win 6 meaning if everyone folds 15% of the time he'll show an immediate profit.