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Old 05-23-2006, 10:33 PM
tpir tpir is offline
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Default Pukey QQ hand

PF capper was a 10/5/2 over only 100 hands

5/10 Hold'em (8 handed)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $5. CO posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (9 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 05-23-2006, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Pukey QQ hand

I don't like it. You still beat JJ. He might even cap with TT.
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Old 05-24-2006, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Pukey QQ hand

I tend to agree and would probably call down. villain is tight, but the fact that there are two posters padding this pot makes it more likely he'd cap with JJ or even TT for equity. you're getting 5.5-1; if he'll cap with JJ or TT 15% of the time it's break-even.

also, by checking the flop you have announced you do not have AA, AK or KK, so he has mandatory bets on both streets after you check. you can't necessarily infer great strength from them.
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Old 05-24-2006, 07:33 AM
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Default Re: Pukey QQ hand

C/R flop
Lead turn, fold to a 3-bet
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:14 AM
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c/r flop or you will never know if you have the best hand
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Pukey QQ hand

older adage? don't necessarily reraise with q,q, from the blinds. i tend to agree with this. failing to reraise disguises a powerful hand that is also very susceptible to overcards. so, by not reraising, you can get away from the hand cheaply if deemed prudent, or, you can extract extra bets if things work out nicely...
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:51 AM
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nh.
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:52 AM
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older adage? don't necessarily reraise with q,q, from the blinds. i tend to agree with this. failing to reraise disguises a powerful hand that is also very susceptible to overcards. so, by not reraising, you can get away from the hand cheaply if deemed prudent, or, you can extract extra bets if things work out nicely...

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Weak.
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Old 05-24-2006, 10:10 AM
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i dont know about a fold in this situation...We are only beat By AA, AK, KK based upon preflop action, compared to all the other hands we can beat a call down would be reasonable i assume
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Old 05-24-2006, 10:17 AM
Haupt_234 Haupt_234 is offline
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We are only beat By AA, AK, KK based upon preflop action

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I think these three outweigh the other hands left in his range after the 10/5/2 caps preflop. What else is left? The other QQ is the only thing I can think of... I doubt the passive rock would cap AQs or JJ OOP.

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