JJ preflop decision (standard?) - 50nl

[Leonid]

I've only been playing at this table for ~4 orbits so I don't know too much about either opponent but they both have vpip's in the 60's after about 20 hands. Don't know anything else about them. As for my table image, I've been speeding a bit since I got to this table, but I haven't been going crazy.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($37.60)</font>
UTG ($54.20)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($84.39)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button ($28.30)</font>
SB ($13.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $6</font>.

[tannenj]

how often does bb raise preflop? without reads, this looks like an easy call. with a read that bb is real aggro preflop, i might reraise.

[Leonid]

Yeah I didn't have a real read on bb at the time cause I'd only been at the table for a few orbits, but he hadn't been really aggro preflop to that point. My real concern here is whether or not to push preflop, but I'm leaning towards calling and reevaluating after seeing a flop.

[tannenj]

i think your thinking is sound. i probably call here.

[absoludicrous]

UTG: 51/12/.79, 3-bet = easy fold.

*My raise wasn't large enough, but that's not the point.


Prima Poker skin
Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $75.03
CO: $18.00
Button: $26.95
nincomepoop: $108.72
BB: $58.63

Pre-flop: (5 players) nincomepoop is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, CO folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">nincomepoop raises to $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $11</font>, Button calls, nincomepoop folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($25.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $8</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($41.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $7.95</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.05 returned to UTG.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($57.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $57.4)


Results:
Final pot: $57.4

UTG: Shows AA
Button: Shows TT

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Should you fold? No, you smooth call this and take a flop.

[Leonid]

Yeah this situation is more clearcut to me than the one I was in. Here, you're getting 4bet by a 12% pfr (not to mention you're out of position the rest of the hand if you call) - folding is easy. In my hand, I'm getting 3bet by an unknown bb after opening from the cutoff. There's no way I'm folding - the question is whether or not to push, but I think that's probably bad in my spot for a number of reasons.

[absoludicrous]

Well, you can SNG any non A or K if you want. However, know that there's a good chance he's not laying down KK or AA regardless of flop texture.