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05-18-2006, 08:40 PM
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T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
The CO is the same villian as in my previous hand, 50/11/2 through 26 hands. He sometimes plays illogically, raising with bottom pair, etc. Not a very good read, but thats all I have.
On the turn I have 5 outs to 2 pair or better and 4 outs to the one card straight. How much would you discount these, and is it enough to justify a call here? Party Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $1/$2 9 players Converter Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, Hero calls, BB (poster) checks. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls. Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 3 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero... 
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#2
05-18-2006, 08:51 PM
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Re: T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
Well, you're up against at least two pair here, maybe a set or straight. Against anything but 86 or A6 or A8 (which I don't expect the latter two) your T and 7 outs are pretty much useless. I'm not worried about a flush since I think both of them have made hands. I'd say all your 9s are clean though you will chop some part of the time with another 9. I think it'd be generous to give you 5 outs here and as such you can fold this turn easily.
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#3
05-18-2006, 09:11 PM
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Re: T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
U don't have enough to call. Especially since u are not closing the action. Both 7 and 9 outs may be dirty.
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#4
05-18-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
easy fold for the same reasons as presented above. No read on BB but he seems to like his hand alot and youve still got CO to contend with. if you got pushed off the best hand here then so be it (make a note of what gets to SD and use to to your advantage in later hands)...but in the long run I think its the right play to fold.
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#6
05-18-2006, 09:42 PM
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Re: T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
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You're playing that flop way too aggressively, you have TPNK here. Check call [/ QUOTE ] I also have a BDFD and a gutshot straight draw. Sorry for posting an easy hand like this, I should have known right away the outs to two pair were no good.
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#8
05-18-2006, 10:28 PM
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Re: T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
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You're playing that flop way too aggressively, you have TPNK here. Check call [/ QUOTE ] TPMK is the best hand in this small field moderately often. The bet is fine, but I'm just calling the raise. When it's two back to OP on the turn, easy fold.
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#9
05-18-2006, 11:58 PM
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Re: T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
And if that's the way you want to play it here, that's fine. But the OP doesn't seem to have a problem with his 3-bet here and that worries me.
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#10
05-19-2006, 02:08 AM
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Re: T7s, facing two cold on the turn, do I have enough clean outs?
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[ QUOTE ] You're playing that flop way too aggressively, you have TPNK here. Check call [/ QUOTE ] TPMK is the best hand in this small field moderately often. The bet is fine, but I'm just calling the raise. When it's two back to OP on the turn, easy fold. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, I think bet/call is the best line on the flop. You don't want it to get checked through and you have some value in a bet (and even some fold equity). The 3-bet is bad, though.
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