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Old 05-17-2006, 03:14 PM
AEKDBet AEKDBet is offline
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Default C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

Opponent is somewhat regular,
Raises much preflop,
VPIP 20ish. Decent, has been folding to my reraises PF.

CO ($390.95)
Hero ($765.50)
SB ($1292.33)
BB ($330.15)
UTG ($555.35)
MP ($1210.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($59) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $124</font>, UTG calls $89.

Turn: ($307) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks


With more history this is a pretty hairline decision, for now do I take a free one or fire away.....
Most importantly how much if you fire?
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Old 05-17-2006, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

Fold PF?

Bet 220. He has a king here rarely (he might have two, but I doubt it). You're representing a set or a huge draw of some sort. I really don't know what hand he has that plays this way, but then again your hand is a mystery to him as well.
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Old 05-17-2006, 04:25 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

[ QUOTE ]
Opponent is somewhat regular,
Raises much preflop,
VPIP 20ish. Decent, has been folding to my reraises PF.


[/ QUOTE ]

In that case, i'd rather reraise preflop than call with a hand like this.

As for the actual action, checking behind means you need to hit your draw to win the hand. However, I think your bets will be called here too often to make betting good. Check, hope to hit your draw and get paid off (although, the way you've played so far, only a worse flush like KcJc will stack off too much to you).

Also, if you bet I think theres a good chance he'll C/R push, which is terrible given your hand.
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Old 05-17-2006, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

I'd check. If he Check raises you you have to call. So pretty much any bet you make is $400.
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Old 05-17-2006, 04:52 PM
Slappz Slappz is offline
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

If you check he knows for sure you don't have the straight, so your pretty much forced to hit your draw. Id bet, i think its likely he hit the flop hard but could give it up on the turn.
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

If you assume your opponent could have KcTc, KcJc, KQ, KK, TT, AA, AT, AQ and would fold AA,AT and AQ then pushing is only about 6$ better then checking behind which is worth 60$ assuming no action on the river.

So it would seem that checking behind might be better since you could expect to win more than an extra 30$ when you hit, on the other hand if your opponent would bet into you on the turn with KQ etc instead of check then there is a lot more value in semi-bluffing.

A case could even be made for betting only 150 or something if your opponent would still lay down AA, AQ etc. At that point it's no longer a semi-bluff since you can't call a check-raise but depending on how tight your opponent is there might be some value in it.

If you think there is now way your opponent would call the flop with AT then you should probably check behind on the turn.
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:12 PM
vauka vauka is offline
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

I would check behind here. Your opponent showed a lot of strength just calling your flop raise. He knows the pot is gonna be big, and I don't think solid players call that flop raise ($90) out of position with the intention of check folding to a turn bet. Very coordinated flop there as well, he probably would have 3-bet or folded if he were really scared of the board.
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:13 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

take the free card
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:15 PM
AllIn3High AllIn3High is offline
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

With that turn card I can't see much good coming from betting. I doubt a better hand folds often enough. I'd rather take the free card here. If he checks again on the river you can still represent a good hand (just not the straight) and have fold eq.
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: C-bet this turn? Whaddayu think? (600 6m)

bet..no way regulars checking a straight there.
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