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Back2Back Folds. I Like\'em...
Here's why...
1) I'm in the top 10 of 40 players remaining 2) I don't want to play big pots w/ T9 off & AQ off outta position for what could be a BIG % of my chips 3) Is this too tight? Absolute Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t100/t200 (Ante: t25) 7 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t20625 UTG+1: t12645 MP1: t9410 CO: t10450 Button: t24790 SB: t9980 Hero: t10355 Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG calls t200 (pot was t300), UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t200 (pot was t500), CO calls t200 (pot was t700), Button calls t200 (pot was t900), SB calls t100 (pot was t1100), Hero checks. Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1375, 6 players) SB checks, Hero bets t800, UTG folds, MP1 raises to t1600, 3 folds, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: t800 returned to MP1. Results: Final pot: t2975 <font color="red">I can't think of many hands I'm ahead of here or one I can push him off? </font> Absolute Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t100/t200 (Ante: t25) 7 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t12620 UTG+1: t11360 MP1: t10225 CO: t24565 Button: t9755 Hero: t9330 BB: t20400 Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t200 (pot was t300), MP1 folds, CO raises to t600, Button folds, Hero folds, BB calls t400 (pot was t1100), UTG+1 calls t400 (pot was t1500). Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t2075, 3 players) BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets t800, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: t800 returned to CO. Results: Final pot: t2075 |
#2
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Re: Back2Back Folds. I Like\'em...
I'm definately calling the first one, and reevaluating on the turn. I think I'm calling the second one too.
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#3
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Re: Back2Back Folds. I Like\'em...
Hand 1 - poor play. Can't think of a hand you beat that limps? Try 55-88. Call & turn a T.
Hand 2 - terrible. You have terriffic pot odds for this call with AQ. You can release if you miss, but replace the J with a Q & you are kicking yourself to the KQ that just raised your weak/tight ass. 3. Your reasoning - Worst of All. 1. 10/40 is still out of the money (I'm guessing). You need to look for any edge to make a FT & go deep. I'm also guessing you get tighter as the bubble approaches. 2. These are not big pots relative to your initial investment. It sounds like you cannot let go of a hand once you enter (voluntarily put in chips which you failed to do in both examples). 3. tight? ummmmmm - YES |
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Re: Back2Back Folds. I Like\'em...
Both hands are on the tight side but I don't dislike them.
1) A minraise should be scary. It could be some kind of draw but very often your behind here. Calling to "evaluate the turn" makes no sense as you almost never get a turn card, you like (and even when you hit, you could still be behind to e.g. a set). I could easily see myself play it exactly the same way. 2) Really tight since you only have to call <5% of your stack to see a flop. Since you're OOP I don't think it's "terrible" at all though. You have good implied odds vs KQ as already pointed out, but at the same time you have exactly as large reversed implied odds to AK. Yes, you're tight, but that's not a crime |
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Re: Back2Back Folds. I Like\'em...
First hand - it's a check and fold or call depending on the flop action - one of 7 limpers will have a hand that beats yours. Betting in the large field of limpers will do nothing with the hands better than yours they have. You will just unduce a raise, and your chips are already in the pot.
Second hand - call preflop |
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Re: Back2Back Folds. I Like\'em...
I like both plays. The first hand--even though you have 7 (!) limpers, the chances are good that you are ahead of all of them on the flop. It seems unlikely that someone has an overpair, so you are mostly worried about a set or a better 9 (such as A9). There are too many limpers here to just check the hand, you need to clear some of those guys out. So I like the bet, and I like the fold, since your hand too weak to continue.
Second hand -- CO doesn't seem to be worried about having a caller (raising only 3XBB with a limper). I'm not happy playing an easily dominated hand OOP. In the absence of reads, I am probably folding this. |
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Re: Back2Back Folds. I Like\'em...
2nd had is WAY too tight. I would raise preflop and bet on pretty much anything on the flop.
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