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Old 05-15-2006, 11:10 PM
PilotMatt PilotMatt is offline
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Default Party 1/2 river spewing?

Villan is 51/0/.56 (1.22 on river), no other reads.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>.....

Against an unknown, this would be an easy raise for me, but whith him this passive is this still correct?
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:12 PM
IronDragon1 IronDragon1 is offline
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

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Villan is 51/0/.56 (1.22 on river), no other reads.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>.....

Against an unknown, this would be an easy raise for me, but whith him this passive is this still correct?

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Absolutely not

EDIT: My comments were in relation to the thread title. I believed this was played just fine.
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:20 PM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

[ QUOTE ]
Villan is 51/0/.56 (1.22 on river), no other reads.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>.....

Against an unknown, this would be an easy raise for me, but whith him this passive is this still correct?

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Absolutely.
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:27 PM
NSchandler NSchandler is offline
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

At party 1/2 I'd 5-bet him if it were possible. People rarely slow down with a flush on a paired board. If he doesn't have a flush, he probably has trips. Ok, well he probably has KT since you posted the hand, but this is still an insta-3 bet, even against this guy.
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:37 PM
PilotMatt PilotMatt is offline
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

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At party 1/2 I'd 5-bet him if it were possible. People rarely slow down with a flush on a paired board. If he doesn't have a flush, he probably has trips. Ok, well he probably has KT since you posted the hand, but this is still an insta-3 bet, even against this guy.

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Nope, not KT
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

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Nope, not KT

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if you lost, its to T5s. this guy prob plays straightforward. a flush would raise which is why I'd 3-bet, but if he 4-bets, i'd just call (if no cap HU).
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

Well I assume you're posting the hand because you lost, and even a 51% VPIP doesn't call 2 cold preflop w/ T7, so if this guy really played KK this way then I gladly loan him some money for a couple minutes. Or the unlikely TT, which I guess a 0% raiser won't 3-bet pf with either.
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Old 05-15-2006, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

The reason i posted it was because he capped the river and it made me wonder if three betting was the right decision.

Results in white:
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Villan had KcXc (flush)
Hero Wins </font>
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Old 05-16-2006, 12:11 AM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

Jack it up. If he made a better boat, so be it. He won't have it often.
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Old 05-16-2006, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: Party 1/2 river spewing?

Yes. This is cool.
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