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Old 05-14-2006, 04:38 PM
spector spector is offline
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Default 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

Turn villian is a little loose PF but otherwise hasnt really got out of line, has only been at the table a few orbits
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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB
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Old 05-14-2006, 04:40 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

good hand.

I think I'd fold the river UI, though.
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

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I think I'd fold the turn

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Old 05-14-2006, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

?????????????? boz&gt;
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

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Small pot, potentially trapped, yada yada.
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

how about raising the flop for value/free card play?
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

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how about raising the flop for value/free card play?

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D'oh! I completely missed the flush draw...yeah, I think this might be a decent raise on the flop with position.
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

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?????????????? boz&gt;

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Small pot, potentially trapped, yada yada.

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What, the first or second time around on the turn? The first time around Hero has the best hand the majority of the time here, so a raise is perfect. The second time around he's closing the action getting 10:1 with a boatload of outs to the nuts.
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Old 05-14-2006, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

HELP JUST READ COMMENTS AFTER GRUNCHING BELOW: I AM WAY OFF BASE???


*grunch*

Stand to be corrected but are you actually adding value here? You don't have a great kicker for your ace and your villian could have the same number of outs to a flush draw as you do to yours. I don't generally regard myself as value-betting unless I have a more than 50% feel that I'm going to win this and I'd feel I'm possibly up against:
- pair of aces with better kicker
- 2 pairs
- flush draw with the diamonds

Against that I have a shot at a flush draw and also a slim chance of another ace falling (which might not even help)

Overall, I just don't think I'm ahead here and given there's only a 20% chance of catching the flush, I would probably call down from the turn.
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Old 05-14-2006, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 A2s value raise this river?

This is a really strong CR from SB trying to trap u in the middle. I believe his most likely holding is A9 or A7. He shouldn't call the flop with just an ace (and he can't have Ace+flushdraw). And a set or lower two-pair is likely to raise this flop with many draws. I would just call.
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