5/10 River ZeeboThm CR

[cts]

Button is terrible. He's too loose and goes to to many showdowns (stats are 51/18). Every street (other than preflop) in this hand is pretty debatable and I'm interested in hearing what lines you would take. Although the button is bad, he's probably aware that a full house beats a flush and that a flush is no good when there are 3 nines on the board. If he's got a flush, I don't think he's calling any reasonable bet on the river. I'm hoping he has a king and will value bet. His bet flop/turn/river stats are 23/19/36. The stacks are perfect for a CRAI. Also, what is your action on the turn?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed)

Button ($1136)
Hero ($1415.27)
BB ($835)
UTG ($1203.50)
MP ($472.25)
CO ($1484)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, MP calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $10, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $35, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $70</font>, Hero calls $35, UTG calls $35.

Turn: ($260) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $200.

River: ($660) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks

[nrinker]

The question is whether or not the villain is total donkey passive type. If he isn't then he is raising a river bet from you if he has a king? correct?

So bet 350 on the river and get called by other pairs that would check behind and get (hopefully) raised by his king.

[cts]

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The question is whether or not the villain is total donkey passive type. If he isn't then he is raising a river bet from you if he has a king? correct?

So bet 350 on the river and get called by other pairs that would check behind and get (hopefully) raised by his king.

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Do you think it is likely he has a pair other than a king?

[J. Sawyer]

if you were trying to test zeebo thm wouldnt you push the river?

[franchise99]

I don't think most players raise with a K on river here, but many players will call off their whole stack thinking that hero is trying to push them off of their well earned split pot. I'd push here and expect villain to call almost all the time he's got a king. If he doesn't have a king you can't win too much on this river anyway.

[LegallyBlind]

i like this play alot. the only hands he folds are the ones he isn't calling any substantial bet whatsoever with anyway.

as for turn, i would probably c/c again and c/r river as long as another club didn't fall

[Dan BRIGHT]

he likely has a boat why not just open push river

[mason55]

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if you were trying to test zeebo thm wouldnt you push the river?

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yes that is the point of zeebo thm. he might get passive even with a king, so you want to take away that opportunity. just PUSH river!

[AJFenix]

Heres one from yesterday


Stack sizes:
Hero: $448.70
UTG+1: $809.60
CO: $115.70
Button: $821.10
SB: $469.80
BB: $351.06

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($36, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $27</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($90, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($90, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $406.7</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Results:
Final pot: $903.4
Hero shows 9d 9s
UTG+1 shows Ts Ac

[cts]

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Heres one from yesterday


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Wowwww. I definitely should have just open pushed. He had a king and CHECKED BEHIND. WTF WHO DOESN'T VALUE BET THE RIVER WITH A FULL HOUSE!? It's OK, I got him back later on a corollary of the Zeebo theorem: nobody folds a straight flush ever. Damn it reload preflop CO!


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($3435.56)
UTG ($340.43)
MP ($356.14)
CO ($506.50)
Button ($1766.75)
SB ($922.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $10, Button calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($45) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $32</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $64</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $150</font>, CO calls $86.

Turn: ($345) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($345) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $3275.56 (All-In), CO calls $346.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: $3967.06

Hero has 9h Jh (straight flush, nine high).
CO doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $3967.06.