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Old 05-14-2006, 12:39 PM
Tito Tito is offline
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Default Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

Villian was pretty TAG. He had shown down the best hand almost every time. A pretty decent player IMO. I had just rivered quad 3's to beat a full house a few hands ago. And then this hand came up.

Party Poker ($0.5 no limit). Hand converted by Check Raised hand converter

UTG ($66.45) (UTG)
<u>HERO ($132.92) [ K K ] (CO)</u>
SB ($33.45) (SB)
BB ($20.55) (BB)
BTN ($48.70) (BTN)

Preflop (5 players):
UTG raises $1.00.
HERO raises $4.50.
3 folds.
UTG raises $7.00.
HERO calls ($3.50).

Flop (33.5 bets ($16.75) in pot, 2 players): A 7 K
UTG checks.
HERO bets $8.00.
UTG raises $58.45.

Hero?

Can I really fold here? I asked him after he pushed if he had aces and he didn't respond. I think this is an insta-call but there are only 3 hands he could have here, AA, 77, and AK that would explain his push. I don't think he's pushing with any less here. Opinions??
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:44 PM
David1234 David1234 is offline
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

Well first off, I think you should have re raised preflop. After the flop I dont see how you can fold.
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:47 PM
NewUser2006 NewUser2006 is offline
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

Maybe if you were deeper. But no, not now.

I really can't think of any hand that would play this way EXCEPT AA... but then again I've been shown some very strange hands in my days (like seeing TT here or something).
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

no way in hell im laying this down.
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

Lol. I'm going to go with my theme for the day:

I think you're [censored] but I doubt I could find a fold.
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:55 PM
JFM JFM is offline
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

You realy should make up your mind on what you should do PF.
Why is raising you such a smal amount?
If you think your ahead push. Behind fold (or call if the odds for making a set is there).
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

never. ever. never. ever. never. ever. and so on.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

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Lol. I'm going to go with my theme for the day:

I think you're [censored] but I doubt I could find a fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

You were right. I couldn't find a fold either and yes, I was [censored]. I called and he showed AA. Tough break. Thanks for the comments.
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

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I think this is an insta-call but there are only 3 hands he could have here, AA, 77, and AK that would explain his push. I don't think he's pushing with any less here. Opinions??

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Frankly, I'd rule out 77 based on the preflop action, and I'd STILL call. Mathematically, he's equally likely to have AK and AA on this board given your holdings. That makes this a coinflip whether you're WA or WB, and given that the pot is offering you about 1.6-to-1 odds, you've just got to call and get stacked half the time.

Besides, you had one full out, and it was totally clean!
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Fold KKK on flop after villian check/pushes?

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Besides, you had one full out, and it was totally clean!

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True, but villain had a redraw. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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