Tight is GOot - Playing JJ

jjb108 · #1 05-14-2006, 10:15 AM

Still seeing the occasional, I'm playing a LAG-TAG game. Guys - go with smart LAG or sLAG with s = slightly. If you're playing TAG and switching gears - great! Just say so. If someone can explain how you can have a LAG/TAG image at a single Table, let me know.

I thought I'd post a few more standard hands when playing JJ. (I'll post some more horrible hands later to maintain my tight and crappy/TAC image)

JJ is my 5th most profitable hand and I play SSNL at about 3-5 PTBB/100 hands.

JJ is a great hands especially 6 max but its not the nuts (74o is the nuts BTW).

You do not want to play for your stack without improving. Sometimes on a draw heavy board and JJ as a overpair to the board, I'll get it in but my biggest losing hands are when people just won't muck their KK, go figure [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Here are 3 typical SSNL JJ hand for me. Win a small pot unimproved in the first. This is my most typical JJ hand and a very good outcome. 2nd is a full ring JJ in the blinds situation. Folding unimproved to overs and not raising into the field who won't fold if I do. Final hand is a clear fold PF...nuff said there????

YMMV as always.

#1
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.85, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.5, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: $2.5 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $3.85

#2 - Tight is GOot FR hand
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $46.25
UTG+1: $24.50
UTG+2: $11.25
MP1: $27.85
MP2: $28.50
MP3: $26.05
CO: $23.80
Button: $24.30
SB: $16.55
Hero: $31.55

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.25, 5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets $1, CO calls, SB folds, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.25, 3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.25, 3 players)
UTG+2 bets $4, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $12.25
UTG+2 shows Js 6c 
CO shows 7c Ah 

#3 Fold PF - I'm drawing to 2 outs...ok so it hits on the flop. Convince me this isn't a fold PF.
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.75
UTG+1: $38.25
UTG+2: $20.75
MP1: $14.45
Hero: $24.76
MP3: $22.20
CO: $8
Button: $64.75
SB: $4.50
BB: $29.15

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $1, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO raises all-in $8, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($18.35, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $18.35)

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($18.35, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $18.35)

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($18.35, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $18.35)

Results:
Final pot: $18.35
UTG shows Kd Kh 
CO shows Ac Qh

xwillience · #2 05-14-2006, 10:29 AM

hand 1: okay

hand 2: raise preflop. c/f that flop is fine.

hand 3: 3 bet, let CO push, Call when CO calls, fold when CO pushes/reraises.

also, i bet if you tighten up and play a more solid game you can make more money. 3-5PTBB/100 is winning but its not 10-12PTBB/100

Haiku · #3 05-14-2006, 11:47 AM

In hand 3 unless you have a read on shortie that says he plays tight, he could be pushing with anything. You're probably racing AKo here at worst.

jjb108 · #4 05-14-2006, 05:27 PM

I must respectfully disagree. #3 - Granted its 25NL but still - fold PF. I don't have the direct odds. Don't have the implied odds. 5-10 rule uses the short stack to calculate the implied odds. They're not there. FR - JJ plays more like 88 than KK.

I'll 3-bet this 6 max but full ring with UTG raise and call of $8 mean that I'm gone. Yes shortie can have anything and without UTG...I'm there. (Cue Mike Sexton voice) you can't call with JJ against a raise and an reraise.