I don't understand people sometimes.

C-Dog · #1 05-13-2006, 07:19 PM

PStars 33 DeepStack.

What could he play like this? And what should Hero Do?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero (t8685)
MP3 (t7245)
CO (t5490)
Button (t4500)
SB (t15025)
BB (t7155)
UTG (t4005)
UTG+1 (t4990)
MP1 (t5680)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls t30, Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, Button calls t90, 1 fold, BB calls t60, MP1 calls t60.

Flop: (t375) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets t30, BB calls t30, MP1 folds, Hero calls t30.

Turn: (t465) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t420, Button calls t420, BB folds.

River: (t1305) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t3960 (All-In), Hero calls time and ????

Final Pot: t5265

Black Aces 518 · #2 05-13-2006, 07:28 PM

My feeling is very strong that he has a flush. The retard minbet on the flop I see a lot on flush draws. Then he calls the turn bet, because, hey, how can you fold a flush draw? Then the river shove when he hits. I call if the river isn't a club, maybe he'd have Ax 2 pair, but I really feel like you're gonna see a flush a LOT here.

beenben · #3 05-13-2006, 07:31 PM

pre-flop - a wide range. he's in LP and it's deep stacks. his M is huge.

flop- faking weakness or weak. or wants a cheap draw. or a value bet.

turn- leaning more towards a draw. Im guessing kc6c or kc2c? or weirdly played aces? or ducks? including the duck of clubs?

river- had a str8 and now is overbetting the flop to represent the flush. or has the nut flush and doesn't know how to extract the value?

In any event, you've got second pair, top kicker- there's a chance for a flush or a straight or sets that beat you. by rough calculations while I'm playing two SNGs, I'd say you have 8k left and fold.

Marwan · #4 05-13-2006, 07:36 PM

looks like an easy fold.. Sure he doesn't know how to bet for value, but it seems like he wants to get paid off and is telling you what he has... the donk bet on the flop is a good indication he is probably on a draw. I used to get confused by huge over-bets, but now I dumb it down as being massive strength 90% of the time.. I see this in cash games the most, people at lower limits really bet huge on the end when they make their hand

Confused1 · #5 05-13-2006, 07:38 PM

6c 7c? That's my guess....

C-Dog · #6 05-13-2006, 07:44 PM

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In any event, you've got second pair, top kicker- there's a chance for a flush or a straight or sets that beat you. by rough calculations while I'm playing two SNGs, I'd say you have 8k left and fold.

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I actually have Top Two Pair. This fold is much easier with just 2nd pair.

C-Dog

reecelights · #7 05-13-2006, 07:45 PM

Looks like you let someone in cheap with a deep stack and he has 76 and/or two clubs, probably the clubs. The overbet is strange, but not uncommon of a bit more novice player, the type that would also make a Post Oak in LP with a four flush.

I think a preflop raise of at least 120 if not 150 would be a better starting line, and a continuation bet on the flop is probably in order, if not a sizeable raise after he showed weakness.

DLizzle · #8 05-13-2006, 08:33 PM

this is like the standard play in the donk playbook for a flush draw/made flush.

unbluffable · #9 05-13-2006, 08:34 PM

Hero bets t420

nice

NHFunkii · #10 05-13-2006, 08:39 PM

fold. I would actually bet this river. I think you get called by plenty of worse hands, and if he raises you can be pretty confident you're crushed.