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Old 05-13-2006, 03:46 AM
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Default B&M AK hand for consideration

At the local cardroom, $100 Max buyin, 1/2 blinds.

I get AKo in middle position and raise to $15 (I have $175 left)

It folds around to the button, who calls (as he does nearly every raise). He has about $700 in front of him and has cooked off a good $400 over the course of the last 2 hours. He is very laggy and loves to call raises to see if he can get the other player to blink first.

The SB folds and the BB raises to $40. The BB is tighter than the button, but I've seen him raising, and in raised pots with less than stellar holdings. He has about $500 in front of him.

The pot is about $70, I'm facing a $25 reraise, and a near maniac has position on me. My move?????
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Old 05-13-2006, 03:52 AM
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All in.
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Old 05-13-2006, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: B&M AK hand for consideration

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but I've seen him raising, and in raised pots with less than stellar holdings

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but have you seen him 3bet with garbage?

I'd want to know what BB 3bet range from the blinds is before pushing.

So I probably just see a flop, but that doesnt sound to good either.
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Old 05-13-2006, 04:04 AM
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Pooooosh. You're the short stack of the 3, and your situational position here is not great. Unless you suspect BB likely has AA or KK (your range on him wasn't clear), this is a good time to get your money in, IMO.
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Old 05-13-2006, 04:08 AM
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No, I haven't seen him 3 bet with garbage. In fact, I don't think that I had seen him 3 bet (until this hand).
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Old 05-13-2006, 04:10 AM
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All in.

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but I've seen him raising, and in raised pots with less than stellar holdings

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but have you seen him 3bet with garbage?

I'd want to know what BB 3bet range from the blinds is before pushing.

So I probably just see a flop, but that doesnt sound to good either.

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It's a live game. He probably has 77, but KQo is also a possibility.
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Old 05-13-2006, 04:29 AM
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If you don't move all in, please take up professional roulette.
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Old 05-13-2006, 04:46 AM
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If you don't move all in, please take up professional roulette.

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LOL, I did (move all in, not take up professional roulette [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]). I figured that I made the right play, but just wanted a sanity check.

My big worry was that the BB, even though he was a bit laggy, knew that I was playing tight. He did seem to know where he was at in a hand post-flop with marginal holdings--so he was at least a somewhat thinking player. He also knew that the button would be along for the ride if I just called.

BTW, results in white:

<font color="white"> Hero is all in. Button folds. BB calls, shows KK and takes the pot. </font>
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Old 05-13-2006, 06:16 AM
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Actually, I'm probably starting to overthink this. If I raise all-in, the button may get scared off by the BB's stack. Keep in mind that I've seen the BB raise with marginal hands, but I haven't really seen him re-raise with one--nor have I seen him call an all-in with one (but the button has done so). He has to be quite certain that I have something, that the button is probably going to call, and that he is going to have bad position for the rest of the hand. So, an all-in bet is likely to get the player who is most likely to donate out of the hand and only get called by a better hand from the BB.

However, a pot sized raise is going to leave me commited to the hand. So if I just 4-bet, I may get more dead-ish money in (via the button)...but I leave myself stuck in the middle of a nut and a possibly legitimate raiser. I also have another player, giving me less chance of winning.

A call nearly ensures another $25 added to the pot by the button and would allow me to get out of the hand if things go wrong. Unfortunately, again, I have the worst possible position which virtually guarantees that I'm going to get messed with.

I can see where pushing applies maximum pressure and negates my poor position, but I can't help but think that I'm only getting called by a hand that beats me (which is fairly likely). This line of thinking could be the results clouding my judgement, which is why I posted here for a sanity check.
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