ABC agressive TAG poker, how far can you go?

[Erik W]

If you are an agressive 24/15/2.5 player who plays very good ABC poker. You play your own cards and not the opponents.
You have no reads but have a Hud displaying VPIP/Pfr/Agg

Which level will you be able to beat for 1BB/100 long term?

This is how most multitablers play when the player pool is big (like Party) when you have no chance to get and use reads good.


EDIT: You play your own cards and your opponents range when it comes comparing your strength but you do not attempt LAGsteals when you think your opponent has overs and the flop comes 279 and you have nothing yourself. Don't try to find spots to move him off possibly weak hands but play your good to decent hands for their strength is what I meant.

[RunDownHouse]

I know true is beating 10/20 for 6BBs while 8-tabling or whatever, but I think 5/10 is the absolute ceiling for this. Maybe 3/6. Plenty of guys in MUSH say that 2BB/100 at 10/20 is a very good winrate for a good player using reads. I really doubt you could hit 1BB if you weren't paying attention to anything other than your cards and a HUD.

[damaniac]

You have me confused. You play your own cards and not your opponents, yet you still use your HUD...so do I at least use those stats to play, or not? Am I just not making specific postflop/non-stat reads, or am I really not thinking about the other player at all?

Because while not making specific postflop reads is not good, you certainly can and should play the opponent at least to some extent based on stats, and not just your own cards, and this is probably what the ABC tag you have in mind does.

[Erik W]

You play your own cards and your opponents range when it comes comparing your strength but you do not attempt LAGsteals when you think your opponent has overs and the flop comes 279 and you have nothing yourself. Don't try to find spots to move him off possibly weak hands but play your good to decent hands for their strength is what I meant.

[TheGunner]

3/6 I guess.

[CrayZee]

Is this really a relevent question? Robot poker is boring and sucks...unless you want to play a gabillion tables to clear bonuses, so yeah, nevermind...it's relevent. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I hate doing that unless I "have to do it".

I think 5/10 is probably the ceiling, maybe 3/6. It depends on the current competition level of the typical pool, obviously...which varies at site, when you play, etc., etc.

[Klompy]

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I know true is beating 10/20 for 6BBs while 8-tabling or whatever, [ QUOTE ]


Is this a true statment, or just a generalization of the fact that true pwns the game?

[Thorv]

True is a demi-god.

[Weatherhead03]

I would suspect somewhere between 5/10 and 10/20.

[Peter Harris]

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True is a demi-god.

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i dont really play 25/15. I think its a lot closer to 29/22. I think there are a lot of bad players at all levels however if you don't adapt to the table environment and players perception of you I doubt you are going to beat 10/20 and above. Pete thinks 3/6 is the cappppppppppppppuchino.

True/Peter