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Old 12-27-2005, 05:49 PM
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Default Is movie \"Munich\" propoganda?

My pops and I were discussing Munich, and he feels it is a propoganda anti-war film that is borderline treasonous to debut in a time of war with islamic terrorists.

My beliefs are generally conservative, but i disagree with him, as freedom of speech is a backbone of our nation.

But I do think he has a certain point that such movies act against what I believe is an important war effort.

Your INTELLIGENT opinions?...
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Is movie \"Munich\" propoganda?

Ask him how long he thinks this war is going to last.

No free speech for 20, 30, even 100 years?

If we can't be critical of our politicians, then we are the same as Iraq, China, USSR, etc.

Not to hi-jack, but what army, nation etc. are we at war with? It sounds like many people think we are at war with a religion.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:06 PM
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Ask him how long he thinks this war is going to last.

No free speech for 20, 30, even 100 years?

If we can't be critical of our politicians, then we are the same as Iraq, China, USSR, etc.

Not to hi-jack, but what army, nation etc. are we at war with? It sounds like many people think we are at war with a religion.

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we're at war with terrorism, they dont have a nation or flag, but they obviously have a willing army.

...but i like your point about "how long would free speech be curbed.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Is movie \"Munich\" propoganda?

"we're at war with terrorism"

Terrorism is abstract. How is it defined? What if Bush said the democratic party was a terrorist organization?
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Is movie \"Munich\" propoganda?

i'll start by defining terrorism as "a group that hijacks passenger airplanes and crashes them into buildings?"
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:40 PM
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i'll start by defining terrorism as "a group that hijacks passenger airplanes and crashes them into buildings?"

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Do you think we'll ever completely wipe them out? Also, we're at war with numerous abstract sructures and ideas, can we curtail freedoms for the sake of the war on drugs?
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Old 12-27-2005, 07:01 PM
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we can never "cure" terrorism, but we can contain it.

and personally, i think all recreational drugs should be legal.
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Old 12-27-2005, 07:11 PM
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I'm about as left as they come and would read anti-war messages into anything, but I can't say Munich is a truly anti-war film.

There is simply too much gratifying killing, too many satisfying war action scenes to be anti-war.

Yes, the overall theme was anti-vengeance and possibly anti-war, but it's far from propaganda. An anti-war film would have a lefty like me leaving the theater ready to protest. Or leave me in tears. The film did neither.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:30 PM
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I walked away with the impression that Spielberg intended to point out that violence solves nothing (especially in regards to the Israel-"Palestine" conflict).

I wonder what Spielberg, given his brazen assertions regarding violence (despite the billion dollar fortune it has aided in giving him), feels is the appropriate solution to the continuing bloodshed, where one side simply wants to live in peace and solidarity from the world for once, while the other side (and allies) simply wants the outright elimination of said first side.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:55 PM
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where one side simply wants to live in peace and solidarity from the world for once,

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It is easy to want to accept status quo when you are the oppressor, tougher to do so for the oppressed.
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