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Old 05-03-2006, 02:06 PM
DJSHAD0W DJSHAD0W is offline
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Default How many games to figure ROI?

How many games do you think would it take to get (reasonably) close to your true ROI at a given level?
(within a few % up or down)
50 / 100 / 150 ... more?
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

Check the FAQ. Short answer is at least 500.
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

Your ROI will be 90% certain after 4,000.
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:11 PM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

To put it in perspective, think about all the times your KK ran into AA when the possibilty of that happening is around 3%. Now realize that after 4,000 of these you can only be 90% certain of your ROI.
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

One hundred, BILLION SNGS <font color="white"> with freakin laserbeams! </font>
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:17 PM
DJSHAD0W DJSHAD0W is offline
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

4000 every level.... that's a lifetime if you don't play full time.
How did you come up with the 90% after 4000 games?
Whats the accuracy after say 200 games?
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

READ THIS

Thanks.

Just because 200 sounds a lot, it doesn't make the confidence change.

Lori
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

[ QUOTE ]
4000 every level.... that's a lifetime if you don't play full time.
How did you come up with the 90% after 4000 games?
Whats the accuracy after say 200 games?

[/ QUOTE ]

I just calculated my confidence for my results at the $55s thus far. Just to give you an idea.

After 563 sngs:

I can be 51.03% confident that my true ROI is +/- 5% from my current ROI.

So, you can see that it takes considerable more than 500 sngs to have any degree of confidence in your ROI.
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Old 05-03-2006, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

Check here.
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Old 05-03-2006, 05:47 PM
gisb0rne gisb0rne is offline
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Default Re: How many games to figure ROI?

Long story short: A lot of people who post here think they are better than they really are.
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