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Old 04-30-2006, 01:17 PM
FLPokerSux FLPokerSux is offline
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Default Florida Gambling Amendment?

Various dealers around the Tampa area have been saying the laws should change to allow house games and betting rounds in excess of $2 in the near future. Any recent news on when this should all take place?
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:19 PM
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Not in the near future is my guess.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:00 PM
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Various dealers around the Tampa area have been saying the laws should change to allow house games and betting rounds in excess of $2 in the near future. Any recent news on when this should all take place?

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House games are illegal in FL? Or do you mean with a rake?
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Old 04-30-2006, 10:18 PM
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House games are illegal in FL?

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[guess]House game = House backed (blackjack/baccarat/craps)[/guess]
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Old 04-30-2006, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Florida Gambling Amendment?

It seems that Florida has previously moved in the opposite direction, banning NL tournaments.
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Old 05-01-2006, 02:20 AM
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I've posted pretty extensively on this. In a nutshell, Jeb Bush is anti-gambling, and so will drag his feet on any required negotiations with the Seminoles. But, per the IGRA, the state must negotiate with them, since the state has legalized slot machines in Broward County, a form of Class III gaming.

Of note: the Seminoles were the first Native American tribe to have gambling.
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Old 05-01-2006, 12:24 PM
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In Florida it is legal to play poker at home for up to $2 per bet, up to 4 bets per round, up to 4 rounds. There is also poker at some greyhound tracks and jai-alai with the same limits (but with about a 10% rake). The indian tribes have the same state mandated limits as the home games and race tracks. The indians and race tracks were running NL games by arguing that the potential for 32 bucks per hand was more than sufficient to cover the total bets during a tournament. They were challenged in court (possibly by the many cruise casinos that go into international waters) and the courts determined that these NL tourneys did not meet the critea of the law. The greyhound track poker traffic dropped dramatically without NL tourneys. So, their lobbyists are trying to up the limits and/or allow no-limit tourneys through the legislature.
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Old 05-01-2006, 02:02 PM
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I am not sure about the dog tracks because I don't like to go to them but the Hard Rock seems to be able to run NL tournaments as big as they want
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Old 05-01-2006, 05:20 PM
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In Florida it is legal to play poker at home for up to $2 per bet, up to 4 bets per round, up to 4 rounds.

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This is incorrect. In Florida, home games may not contest a pot over $10. Also, home games must not be advertised or take a rake.

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There is also poker at some greyhound tracks and jai-alai with the same limits (but with about a 10% rake). The indian tribes have the same state mandated limits as the home games and race tracks. The indians and race tracks were running NL games by arguing that the potential for 32 bucks per hand was more than sufficient to cover the total bets during a tournament.

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Also inaccurate. The pari-mutuels use this argument when dealing with the State's govering body, the Division of Pari-Mutuels. The Seminoles are not bound by said division's rules and laws, and have deemed that tournaments can run at any buy in. The State has made no attempt to counteract this, and so, the Hard Rock casinos in Florida offer $1000+50 SNGs daily.

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They were challenged in court (possibly by the many cruise casinos that go into international waters) and the courts determined that these NL tourneys did not meet the critea of the law. The greyhound track poker traffic dropped dramatically without NL tourneys. So, their lobbyists are trying to up the limits and/or allow no-limit tourneys through the legislature.

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News to me. This is an interesting take - I wasn't aware the racinos were actually making efforts. Source?
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:51 PM
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This is incorrect. In Florida, home games may not contest a pot over $10. Also, home games must not be advertised or take a rake.

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Are you sure about this? I know this used to be the case for the casinos. They used to play .25c/.50c with a max pot size of $10 until it was changed to the $2 max bet rule. Why wouldn't it be the same for home games if greyhound can run it?
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