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Old 04-30-2006, 01:19 AM
Colonel Kataffy Colonel Kataffy is offline
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Default TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

BB is new to the table.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $9</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($19.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $20</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($59.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($59.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $55</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $169.5

This was a wierd hand. How did I do? Advice appreciated on all streets.
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

Eh, I probably fold PF. And then with his raise on the flop, I almost defintely let it go there.
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Old 04-30-2006, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

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Eh, I probably fold PF. And then with his raise on the flop, I almost defintely let it go there.

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Your line is no fun [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

I play AK the same way villain did (larger flop raise though) quite often and and almost always get paid off by a weaker A.


I fold AQ here preflop. Against an unknown, I give him a default reraising range of QQ-AA and AK, all of which have you dominated.

I raise more on flop (16-18) and if he still comes over the top fold.

AS played I fold river
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

I fold every street when you were raised and the river.

I think this is a good spotto practice some pot control. Check the flop. Check the turn and call a smallish river bet.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

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I fold every street when you were raised and the river.

I think this is a good spotto practice some pot control. Check the flop. Check the turn and call a smallish river bet.

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I agree 100% with pot control here, but I think you are getting to see a free river almost never with that weak flop bet. Thats why I like a larger bet on the flop. It makes the rest of the hand much easier.

If you are flat called then you might be able to check it down/call a small river bet, and if you are raised you drop it.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

I usually check flop. Probably call the river.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

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I usually check flop. Probably call the river.

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can you explain? why are you calling the reraise preflop if you are going to check when you hit TP?
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

Cause if he has a mid-high pp he hates this flop. But they will sometimes bluff it. You usually aren't getting too much value by betting this flop.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: TP, Villain checks turn, pots river.

ah, good point. didnt think of it this way. i've probably been losing a good bit of money by pushing those pairs off drawless boards when I hit.


my point still stands preflop though. the big pairs wont pay if an A hits, and youre screwed when the flop comes Q high. - fold
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